Google probably spends more money a month than what it would take to preserve this service on coffee creamer for a single conference room.
Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month
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Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month
#72ArchiveTeam is trying to brute force the entire URL space before its too late. You can run a Virtualbox VM/docker image (ArchiveTeam Warrior) to help (unique IPs are needed). I've been running it for a couple months and found a million. https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ArchiveTeam_Warrior
Docker container FTW. Thanks for the heads-up - this is a project I will happily throw a Hetzner server at.
Same here. I am geniunely asking myself for what though. I mean, they'll receive a list of the linked domains, but what will they do with that?
Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month
#73From the blog post: "more than 99% of them had no activity in the last month" https://developers.googleblog.com/en/google-url-shortener-li... This is a classic product data decision-making fallacy. The right question is "how much total value do all of the links provide", not "what percent are used".
> The right question is "how much total value do all of the links provide", not "what percent are used". Yes, but it doesn't bring in the sweet promotion home, unfortunately. Ironically, if 99% of them doesn't see any traffic, you can scale back the infra, run it in 2 VMs, and make sure a single person can keep it up as a side quest, just for fun (but, of course, pay them for their work). This beancounting really mak…
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Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
For people wanting to include URL references in things like books, what’s the right approach to take today? I’m genuinely asking. It seems like its hard to trust that any service will remaining running for decades
The full URl to the original page. You aren't responsible if things go offline. No more than if a publisher stops reprinting books and the library copies all get eaten by rats. A reader can assess the URl for trustworthiness (is it scam.biz or legitimate_news.com) look at the path to hazard a guess at the metadata and contents, and - finally - look it up in an archive.
>The full URl to the original page.
I thought that was the standard in academia? I've had reviewers chastise me when I did not use wayback machine to archive a citation and link to that since listing a "date retrieved" doesn't do jack if there's no IA copy.
Short links were usually in addition to full URLS, and more in conference presentations than the papers themselves.
Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The right question is "how much total value do all of the links provide", not "what percent are used". Yes, but it doesn't bring in the sweet promotion home, unfortunately. Ironically, if 99% of them doesn't see any traffic, you can scale back the infra, run it in 2 VMs, and make sure a single person can keep it up as a side quest, just for fun (but, of course, pay them for their work). This beancounting really mak…
Configuring a static set of redirects would take a couple hours to set up, and literally zero maintenance forever. Amazon should volunteer a free-tier EC2 instance to help Google in their time of economic struggles.
This is what I mean, actually.
If they’re so inclined, Oracle has an always free tier with ample resources. They can use that one, too.
Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
It will include many URLs that are semi-private, like Google Docs that are shared via link.
If some URL is accessible via the open web, without authentication, then it is not really private.
What do you mean by accessible without authentication? My server will serve example.com/64-byte-random-code if you request it, but if you don’t know the code, I won’t serve it.
Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month
#77ArchiveTeam is trying to brute force the entire URL space before its too late. You can run a Virtualbox VM/docker image (ArchiveTeam Warrior) to help (unique IPs are needed). I've been running it for a couple months and found a million. https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/ArchiveTeam_Warrior
Just started, super easy to set up
Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month
#78From the blog post: "more than 99% of them had no activity in the last month" https://developers.googleblog.com/en/google-url-shortener-li... This is a classic product data decision-making fallacy. The right question is "how much total value do all of the links provide", not "what percent are used".
> "more than 99% of them had no activity in the last month"
Better to have a short URL and not need it, than need a short URL and not have it IMO.
Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month
#79From the blog post: "more than 99% of them had no activity in the last month" https://developers.googleblog.com/en/google-url-shortener-li... This is a classic product data decision-making fallacy. The right question is "how much total value do all of the links provide", not "what percent are used".
What fraction of indexed Google sites, Youtube videos, or Google Photos were retrieved in the last month? Think of the cost savings!
Youtube already does this, to some extent, by slowly reduce the quality of your videos, if they're not accessed frequently enough.
Many videos I uploaded in 4k are now only available in 480p, after about a decade.
Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month
#80There seems to have been a recent uptick in phishers using goo.gl URLs. Yes, even without new URLs being accepted by registering expired domains with an old reference.