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What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

laurent_du wrote: post #50
macintux wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question comes down to: is nudity inherently sexual? Not everyone feels it is.

Let's be real, everyone feels nudity is inherently sexual, except on HN and probably on reddit where men love to claim that it's not. I don't know if it's virtue-signalling, sexual frustration, or something else. It does sound weird and creepy to me - grown up men who claim that naked women are not arousing, the same men who rally en masse every time pornography censorship is discussed, to complain about freedom of e…

"let's be real" isn't a strong argument tbh; your argument doesn't apply to a lot of cultures. Ever been to a sauna? Nudist areas? Ever seen South-American, African, Indonesian tribes?

Whether nudity is considered sexual is cultural, not "inherently", and you claiming that "everyone" feels like it is is highlighting your own blinkered world view. You don't speak for "everyone".

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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Post by diggan »

mnw21cam wrote: post #43
laurent_du wrote: post #21

> The image attached to this blog post is a stock photo of a nude pregnant woman. Absolutely nothing sexual. How is this not sexual? The fact that it's a stock photo, or that the woman is pregnant, is irrelevant. It's very clearly a sexual picture.

I agree. Different people have very different thresholds for what is "sexual", so it's incorrect to make a blanket statement that it is not sexual. It's sexual for a decent proportion of people - just the fact that this article was tagged NSFW shows that.

> It's sexual for a decent proportion of people - just the fact that this article was tagged NSFW shows that

I don't think it shows that at all. Any content not suitable for a work computer in the typical office gets a NSFW label, it's literally in the name. An image of some war-time event can be as NSFW as an image of a woman removing her clothes, and at the same time neither images can be sexual.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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Post by foldr »

AdkamEup wrote: post #31
laurent_du wrote: post #21

> The image attached to this blog post is a stock photo of a nude pregnant woman. Absolutely nothing sexual. How is this not sexual? The fact that it's a stock photo, or that the woman is pregnant, is irrelevant. It's very clearly a sexual picture.

Wow, you've gotten downvoted. I came here for your comment. That stock photo is strikingly sexual; it immediately makes me horny. (I'm a cis-het guy nearing 50 years of age, I have an active and satisfying sex life with my wife, and I've not looked at porn, or engaged in self-pleasing, for several years now. The reason I find the photo sexual is not that "I'm not getting any". I've been getting plenty, thank you very…

Seeing a regular photo of an attractive person with clothes on might arouse someone. That doesn’t mean it’s a sexual photo.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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Post by cindyllm »

AdkamEup wrote: post #68
laurent_du wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's be real, everyone feels nudity is inherently sexual, except on HN and probably on reddit where men love to claim that it's not. I don't know if it's virtue-signalling, sexual frustration, or something else. It does sound weird and creepy to me - grown up men who claim that naked women are not arousing, the same men who rally en masse every time pornography censorship is discussed, to complain about freedom of e…

> I don't know if it's virtue-signalling, sexual frustration, or something else. I think de-sensitization [*] may play a big role here; I'm convinced that the more porn you look at, the higher your threshold goes. I've not consumed any porn for years now (as I write in my other comment), and I find the lady in the picture extremely sexual. Yes, she's not suggesting / soliciting / provoking; she is just standing there…

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Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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Post by Lockyy »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #32
h1fra wrote: post #19

Hard question, and Instagram is getting abused by this. They allowed breastfeeding as a non-porn category, now you have hundreds of OnlyFans account faking breastfeeding. Effectively ruining the progress for everybody.

I'm a new parent who recently stumbled into the world of Instagram breastfeeding pornography. I just wanted to say that the content I saw seemed to be almost universally published by men rather than women pushing their own OnlyFans content. I know you probably didn't intend it that way but I often see criticism of OnlyFans specifically made when I wouldn't have seen it around traditionally male operated pornography p…

There's more than a subtle misogyny to the anti-OF messaging people throw around, not to label the grandparent comment as falling into this issue.

I have seen comments along the lines of "Onlyfans spotted, opinion dismissed," numerous times online under posts/videos completely unrelated to a content creators OF business. The idea that a person is a sex worker and therefore a slut (in a derogatory rather than reclaimed sense) and therefore they and their opinions are worthless, is the unstated logic of this sentence.

The misogyny drips off of the concept of an Onlyfans lessening someone.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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Post by AdkamEup »

ta1243 wrote: post #45
laurent_du wrote: post #21

> The image attached to this blog post is a stock photo of a nude pregnant woman. Absolutely nothing sexual. How is this not sexual? The fact that it's a stock photo, or that the woman is pregnant, is irrelevant. It's very clearly a sexual picture.

The advert on this page https://www.cpreview.org/articles/2021/8/firearms-and-the-ph... Is 1) far more sexual 2) far more dangerous than the picture on the linked site And that's nowhere near the level of say this: https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-girl-licking-her-gun-...

I find the girl licking her gun repulsive. An instant boner killer. I hate guns, and she's a total fake, too. She may be "soliciting" alright, but the whole pose is off-putting.

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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Post by MrScruff »

AdkamEup wrote: post #59
diggan wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it immediately makes me horny Some people suffer/enjoy getting aroused by cars, does that mean every car picture is sexual? Probably not. While fun to hear about others perspective, "suggestively sexual" usually requires at least some attempt at being suggestive, a pregnant woman just existing probably isn't suggestive, even though you find it so because of your sexual preferences. I don't know how old you are, but…

I wasn't debating "suggestive". The fine article claimed (and the parent quoted), "Absolutely nothing sexual"; that's what I disagree with. I agree that the photo is not suggestive; in other words, I fully agree that in the picture, she's not "soliciting" or even "provoking" (even without having any actual intent to participate). That's fine. She doesn't have to be suggestive, or to do anything other than exist and b…

I don't think an image can be defined as sexual based on whether or not it produces an arousal response in you or anyone else. If you looked an image featuring women who are from a culture where partial nudity is normal and not considered sexual, but you have an arousal response, does that make the image sexual?

Re: What even is 'adult' content? [NSFW]

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Post by salawat »

Lockyy wrote: post #62

Adult content is whatever is deemed to be objectionable and abhorrent to the dominant social group within a culture and that which needs to be censored and hidden from public view. Beyond a desire to "protect the children" from sex, violence, and drugs. It is a desire to hide and suppress dissent around major social issues. It is a desire to label representation of trans liberation and queer lives as adult, obscene.…

>And it is a desire to label realistic representations of history such as Maus

Dare I ask, wtf is Maus representation of history??

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