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We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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> This post explores the journey of building this specialized deployment option for regulated industries where data sovereignty isn't just preferred—it's mandatory. This is an AI writing tell: "It's not just x—it's y." https://youtu.be/9Ch4a6ffPZY

I loathe every cheap throwaway comment like this.

Know who else uses punctuation? People who write. In fact, that's where the AI got the idea.

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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> Then I realized all those who complained was using JIRA Cloud and we were using on-prem, and it all made sense. Even Atlassian doesn't use Jira cloud. Btw it's not "JIRA".

Atlassian very much do use Jira cloud. Source: I worked there for 10 years. Not apologising for it's performance however.

Any inights why the performance often varies between a Model T Ford and a glacial boulder?

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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post #69

This also makes it infinitely more useful for healthcare. Not healthcare software specifically. Lots of use cases in logistics, irl maintenance, etc. Patient data creates hipaa challenges and tends to overflow into any system.

+1. We already work with a few healthcare teams, and self-hosted is almost always their go-to. Our air-gapped edition has been in beta for a bit, and we’re seeing more use cases pop up—especially in places where HIPAA and data isolation matter a lot.

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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post #49

> This post explores the journey of building this specialized deployment option for regulated industries where data sovereignty isn't just preferred—it's mandatory. This is an AI writing tell: "It's not just x—it's y." https://youtu.be/9Ch4a6ffPZY

It's an AI writing tell that was copied from so many of us who use it.

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Atlassian very much do use Jira cloud. Source: I worked there for 10 years. Not apologising for it's performance however.

Any inights why the performance often varies between a Model T Ford and a glacial boulder?

I mean, presumably it's subject to the two curses of modern software:-

1. Unless major customers are actively closing their accounts due to the poor performance, improving performance isn't a priority.

2. The people who pay for it aren't the people who use it, so the performance can get very, very bad before customers start closing their accounts.

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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> Turns out when you eliminate all network latency, things get snappy. Same experience with JIRA. I read all these negative comments here and elsewhere about how slow and clunky JIRA was, and I couldn't relate at all. Then I realized all those who complained was using JIRA Cloud and we were using on-prem, and it all made sense. We've since moved to JIRA Cloud ourselves, and I understand now. We moved and none of the…

Our org used Jira on-prem for 2k engineers and 3k additional staff and it was slow as molasses. The dialogues and context menus took forever to show and page navigation was beyond painful. We had dedicated engineering for maintaining our Jira and Bitbucket, and they still fell over. We eventually moved back to GitHub. (Our usage went from GitHub on-prem pre-MS -> Bitbucket on-prem -> GitHub cloud post-MS.) I hate Jir…

We run a full Atlassian suite on prem for 5k users and it works really well

Well except Bamboo. It’s terrible

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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Big fan of Plane since it's open-core. Doesn't seem to be a lot of options for self-hosted/open-core project management software. The existing ones looks pretty bad, and don't come anywhere close to Jira level functionality.

Redmine is awesome

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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I have had the opposite experience with Jira at a relatively large corporation (years ago). Our local Jira was probably just configured weird or on underpowered hardware though.

Having adopted a number of development tools, including Jira and Confluence, it’s amazing people let them sit there chugging away on underpowered machines with hundreds of users quietly complaining about the speed. Throwing some extra CPU cores and memory is so cheap for the quality of life improvement, let alone the productivity gain.

People complaining about JIRA has become enough of a trope that it mostly gets ignored.

Also big enough corps give underpowered machines to the mass of employees (anyone not a dev, designer or lead of something) so latency is just life to them.

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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post #69

This also makes it infinitely more useful for healthcare. Not healthcare software specifically. Lots of use cases in logistics, irl maintenance, etc. Patient data creates hipaa challenges and tends to overflow into any system.

Why would a health care org care about air-gapped deployments? Most (really, almost all) health care data is stored on cloud SAAS databases already; for people who care, this vendor already had an on-prem version.

Re: We built an air-gapped Jira alternative for regulated industries

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After a U.S. federal contractor told us they loved Plane but couldn't use it due to ITAR requirements, we spent 6 months building a truly air-gapped version. No external connections, no license pings, no telemetry, everything runs in complete isolation. The interesting part: our air-gapped deployment actually runs faster than our SaaS version. Turns out when you eliminate all network latency, things get snappy. This…

> Turns out when you eliminate all network latency, things get snappy. Same experience with JIRA. I read all these negative comments here and elsewhere about how slow and clunky JIRA was, and I couldn't relate at all. Then I realized all those who complained was using JIRA Cloud and we were using on-prem, and it all made sense. We've since moved to JIRA Cloud ourselves, and I understand now. We moved and none of the…

Just open the network tab and refresh a page in Jira and you will understand. It isn’t too noticeable on a LAN. Stick the internet in there and it is painful. The worst I have seen is self hosted and accessed over Netskope ZTNA. Truly an abomination.
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