What this type of news shows is that you really can't trust any government or company with your data. So don't give them any data -- only store data on your own hardware and set up your own servers if you really need a "cloud" for your data.
UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US
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Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US
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The U.S. also attempted to force Apple to add a back door just a decade ago. > Tim Cook, the C.E.O. of Apple, which has been ordered to help the F.B.I. get into the cell phone of the San Bernardino shooters, wrote in an angry open letter this week that "the U.S. government has asked us for something we simply do not have, and something we consider too dangerous to create." The second part of that formulation has righ…
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It's called Pegasus.
Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US
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#74I really sort of expected that by the time I reached my age that we'd have more policy makers that understood tech a little better. I feel like in the last say 25 or more years ... the needle hasn't moved.
I don't see why you think they don't understand the tech.
This is going to be heresy here, but honestly I think it's a reasonable position. Not one I would take, but reasonable.
For the first time in human history there can be large scale communication it is mathematically impossible for governments to have any access to. If you believe that governments are doing the job of protecting their citizens (and many do), it's entirely reasonable for them to want this type of access.
They have it with the postal service, and analogue phones and the world didn't collapse, and many criminals got caught.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
The people in office now were already old by the time the Internet and especially Mobile took off. But it’s not like many young adults today who grew up with mobile phones understand computers either. At 51 growing up with computers in the 80s, I find myself explaining what I think should be simple computer concepts to both my parents generation and my adult children. My 80 year old mom is not a stereotypical old per…
There was a very idealistic move in education to believe that younger students would be "digital natives" and self taught on typing, computer programs, etc. So we deemphasized classes on this, and now kids grow up on consumption oriented devices and can't type again. So it goes in circles I guess
I think idealistic is the wrong wording. Maybe optimistic or naive?
Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US
#77I really sort of expected that by the time I reached my age that we'd have more policy makers that understood tech a little better. I feel like in the last say 25 or more years ... the needle hasn't moved.
I don't see why you think they don't understand the tech. This is going to be heresy here, but honestly I think it's a reasonable position. Not one I would take, but reasonable. For the first time in human history there can be large scale communication it is mathematically impossible for governments to have any access to. If you believe that governments are doing the job of protecting their citizens (and many do), it…
But also for the first time in human history, it's possible to do large-scale surveillance without large-scale human effort. The power of the network goes both ways.
Phone wiretapping (until recently I suppose) and mail inspection required a human to take some action to listen in; you couldn't just monitor everyone's communications. Now you can.
Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US
#78The specified policy aside, it’s kind of sad to see - the UK after Brexit just doesn’t carry the same weight. It would’ve been a different story if the UK as part of the EU were moving forward with a piece of legislation.
Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
There was a very idealistic move in education to believe that younger students would be "digital natives" and self taught on typing, computer programs, etc. So we deemphasized classes on this, and now kids grow up on consumption oriented devices and can't type again. So it goes in circles I guess
I think idealistic is the wrong wording. Maybe optimistic or naive?
Optimistic is probably the kindest, yeah. I don't think it was strictly a bad argument - it was easy to think of the classes as outdated and taught by a generation who knew less than the students. It just turned out to be a very short state of affairs. Hard to expect schools to have predicted the iPhone, right?
Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US
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The U.S. also attempted to force Apple to add a back door just a decade ago. > Tim Cook, the C.E.O. of Apple, which has been ordered to help the F.B.I. get into the cell phone of the San Bernardino shooters, wrote in an angry open letter this week that "the U.S. government has asked us for something we simply do not have, and something we consider too dangerous to create." The second part of that formulation has righ…
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No-one is surprised by the existence of the security arms race.
It's the reason that Apple and Google recently started rebooting devices that haven't been unlocked in a while.