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Re: Subreply – An open source text-only social network

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Post by card_zero »

latexr wrote: post #65
card_zero wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be more specific. Something about the paradox of tolerance, maybe? But anyway, you admit that your idea of free speech has restrictions, and their idea of free speech also has restrictions, but the difference is that yours are the necessary ones, by your values. Their restrictions are the necessary ones by their values, but their values are bad and wrong. I'm only being slightly po-faced here, I think this…

> But anyway, you admit that your idea of free speech has restrictions That is exactly why you should read the links. It’s not my idea of free speech. You have no idea what my idea is, because what I showed you is the definition . I didn’t make those up, I linked to sources. What you are doing is conflating someone who understands what free speech is—and that its definition and application everywhere includes restric…

Yes, but my point is, trying to silence the speech of others is part of free speech, and you and your sources have said so. So criticizing the absolutist for not being a consistent absolutist, when you don't even believe in any simple consistent rule, is petty.

There probably is a very general consistent rule to your/your source's idea of free speech, like "everybody's liberties should be curtailed only where they endanger the liberties of others". But implementing this leaves enormous scope for arbitrary and creative judgments. We can assume that your opponents, being wrong, have less internally consistent ideas, but even so the presence of exceptions in itself is nothing to be critical about if your own conception of free speech is nuanced. They may be following some logic too.

Re: Subreply – An open source text-only social network

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Post by iszomer »

JimDabell wrote: post #53
ta8645 wrote: post #44

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We see much worse than that all the time. We go to movies that portray horror, torture, murder, depravity, slavery, etc. There are books that contain all those. There are tattoos on people that depict scenes of death and satanism. We put these in their proper place and tolerate them, many people even enjoy them. There are some efforts to keep them out of the public eye and away from children, but it's quite easy to s…

> There should be a way to filter what you don't want to see, that's your choice. But we shouldn't try to stamp out people saying what they want The point of choosing abusive usernames and posting abusive things is to hurt people who don’t want to see that stuff. The two cannot coexist in the same space. There’s no reason to legitimise this kind of thing while they are looking for ways to hurt people.

I used `Kizmiaz` as a (gaming) username at some point in time and let my pre-pubescence self run wild on that account.

Re: Subreply – An open source text-only social network

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Post by onetom »

myaccountonhn wrote: post #70
itisfinji wrote: post #59

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I love the UI.

Me too, not all UIs need to have the spacing of a children's book with one sentence and an image per page.

While I agree with what we don't need, something is still off with the UI. I can't really put my finger on any specific problem, though. It's just a gut feeling.

The names are bold faced, so my attention is drawn to them, but since i don't recognize any of them, i don't even know where to start reading.

Re: Subreply – An open source text-only social network

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Post by onetom »

dsmurrell wrote: post #32

Was going to register but this stopped me... "Password needs a lowercase letter" Can you use entropy based password complexity measures please.

Can you give some pointers to some popular implementations or algorithms in any language, please?

Is there some "industry standard" or "best practice" for such a metric?

I guess Bitwarden might have something publicly available...

Re: Subreply – An open source text-only social network

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Post by giantrobot »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #68
giantrobot wrote: post #50

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> If the media provider you chose goes down, nobody will be able to see the stuff you've posted anymore. Imgur was started because the founder was annoyed at sites like ImageShack and Photobucket killing viral images and/or preventing hot linking. It was Reddit's official-unofficial image host until Reddit started hosting images themselves.

Imgur also rugpulled in the end, think it was adult content at first but didn't they recently delete a ton of old content and content not tied to accounts. Ultimately you can never trust the parasite image upload service because eventually they'll try and supplant you like how imgur is now a reddit-like/ifunny-like type site instead of just a "dumb" image host.

I think you're right that Imgur went on a binge of deleting content not tied to registered accounts in the recent past. It's amusing Imgur went full circle, starting because they disliked inaccessible content and then making content inaccessible.

It's hopefully a lesson people learn that were too young to experience ImageShack/Photobucket's issues.

Re: Subreply – An open source text-only social network

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Post by hn-shithole »

shayway wrote: post #20
nathan_compton wrote: post #19

Two clicks into this and I say someone posting "Killing n** (free speech)" from a poster named "N*** killer". I am, in fact, pro free speech. But this is a bad look. I'm not even saying this is a problem with subreply. It is some other kind of problem. A problem with a subset of people who like free speech or something? I don't get it.

It's worth pointing out that the post in question was made in the past half hour amidst the wave of activity from HN. Not to say your point isn't valid, but I think this is more an example of trolls who will say anything and everything to cause anger and insult; it's not representative of those who believe in free speech, or the site itself for that matter.

It's that HN is filled with racist dipshit clowns.

I posted a prototype of a real-time social network on HN many years ago and within minutes there were multiple posts exactly like that.

Re: Subreply – An open source text-only social network

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Post by hn-shithole »

givemeethekeys wrote: post #25
shayway wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worth pointing out that the post in question was made in the past half hour amidst the wave of activity from HN. Not to say your point isn't valid, but I think this is more an example of trolls who will say anything and everything to cause anger and insult; it's not representative of those who believe in free speech, or the site itself for that matter.

Maybe it is a bot by other competing social networks. Such trolling hurts new businesses a lot more than old ones.

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