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FDA Authorizes Juul E-Cigarettes

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Post by jajuuka »

jasonthorsness wrote: post #68
jajuuka wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teen vaping has been decreasing. And the solution to that problem is ban vaping. When teen drinking was a huge problem we didn't ban alcohol.

It is declining after shooting to like 20% of high school students a few years ago it was insane. I don't think bans are the solution either, but I do think it's fair to restrict advertising/promoting. Parents should have assistance to protect their kids from marketers who believe it's net bad for the users but market it anyway because it's their job, or addicts who evangelize it out of cope/excuse for their own addi…

We already have restrictions on advertising and promotions. What assistance do parents need to monitor what media and information their kids have access to?

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

whycome wrote: post #33
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #5

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The candy flavors were marketed to children.

ban the marketing to children. or limit the ads to in between all the ads for the different betting platforms.

They were banned before vapes existed. That's why the cartoon characters are gone. They still intentionally made it appealing to children.

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Post by morninglight »

My neighbor has two kids.

One kid has asthma and uses an albuterol inhaler. The inhaler requires a doctor's prescription and is expensive.

The other kid vapes e-cigarettes. Vaping solution is cheaper and readily available.

Perhaps albuterol is a dangerous, addictive substance?????

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Post by bigyabai »

nashashmi wrote: post #66
dreamcompiler wrote: post #57

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Except of course for government restrictions on women's reproductive healthcare. Those seem to be fine.

Not sure what you seem to refer to. If it is abortion, then that is restricted in the same spirit as murder is prohibited.

Only if the state laws redefine it as such.

The whole issue around abortion for conservatives is that it's not considered felony manslaughter by the Supreme Court. Hasn't been for close to 50 years now.

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Post by 827a »

oasisbob wrote: post #54
heckintime wrote: post #23

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Seems like Zyn is better for you and others.

... except the increasing numbers of young children who ingest them.

Kids also regularly ingest large volumes of flinstone multivitamins and melatonin gummies. Does that change your position on the health and safety of these supplements? Should our nanny-state ban those too?

I'll stop you right there, because I know what you're thinking, and nope: Zyn containers already have a child safety lock on them. Its the bane of existence for the adults who buy them, you can ask any of them, but they already have that.

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Post by chucksta »

esseph wrote: post #22
chucksta wrote: post #11

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Who is 99 banana's and maddog 20/20 marketed to?

Please tell me who MD 20/20 is marketing to, I would love to know.

I don't know. But they clearly don't have a lot of money, a refined pallet, and don't mind crazy flavors. Everyone I know seemed to have tried it in a particular time in their lives, and oddly they don't seem to drink it anymore.

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Post by malfist »

jajuuka wrote: post #48
malfist wrote: post #14

I'm sure loosening restrictions is all part of the Make America Healthy Again plan, right?

Considering vaping is an effective means to get people off cigarettes, I would guess so. MAHA is garbage but this is a good change.

And you get people to switch from cigarettes to ecigs by permitted flavors targetted at children?

How many children, enticed by the fruit flavors, pick up a life time habit of tobacco use?

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Post by malfist »

jajuuka wrote: post #69
EA-3167 wrote: post #65

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That's the problem, kids were using nicotine less and less often before vaping, and vaping reversed that trend. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10741819/ Here's the statistical breakdown from that: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10741819/table/t1/ Between 1991 and 2021 tobacco use among young people dropped precipitously. Again, this shows up again and again in the data comparing ALL products conta…

I'm not sure what your point is here. It did cause a spike and once again it is going down. The trend isn't reversed, it was a data spike. Even severely anti-vaping organizations like Truth Initiative reflect this too. https://truthinitiative.org/research-resources/emerging-toba... We are far past the apex of teen vaping in 2019.

I wonder why we're past the apex of teen vaping. It can't possibly be because we banned flavors in ecigs that targeted kids.

It's almost like saying we should stop vaccinating because the rate of disease has dropped after decades of vaccination

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Post by malfist »

nashashmi wrote: post #66
dreamcompiler wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except of course for government restrictions on women's reproductive healthcare. Those seem to be fine.

Not sure what you seem to refer to. If it is abortion, then that is restricted in the same spirit as murder is prohibited.

Murder has a victim. Abortion does not.
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