Having an address to your name helps a lot to get a job (classism is very harsh and bad, society is very cruel to homeless people)
The Italian towns selling houses for €1
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Re: The Italian towns selling houses for €1
#72I come from a small rural place in Norway, at the lowest point the municipalities started selling old houses for next to nothing, as in equivalent to $100. No strings attached. But of course, the person living there would have to pay (equivalent to) $1000-$1500 / year on fees related to water, waste management, cleaning of chimney, etc. And you'd probably like to have the house insured. And these weren't nice new hou…
There's an irony in that there is often a regulatory issue with the local government, not just some "shortage of humans". The same thing happened in one of the most populated regions in the US. The area between Boston/NYC and DC, containing Baltimore, was once a city of a million people. It contains an underground subway and was once referred to as the Paris of America, however through regulation and unions it became…
Interesting. I heard that Detroit was known as the Paris of the West. Looking it up, it seems this was a fairly common phrase applied to many cities over the years. [0]
Detroit also has had $1 homes, but as with everywhere else, that isn’t the end of the story.
Re: The Italian towns selling houses for €1
#73I come from a small rural place in Norway, at the lowest point the municipalities started selling old houses for next to nothing, as in equivalent to $100. No strings attached. But of course, the person living there would have to pay (equivalent to) $1000-$1500 / year on fees related to water, waste management, cleaning of chimney, etc. And you'd probably like to have the house insured. And these weren't nice new hou…
Sounds like there were many strings attached actually.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
The catch is that the entire area is in decline and there's little to do for social activities or employment. Declining cities in the US have tried this, and they are not places people generally want to live. This is the same scenario, just in a location that is romanticized by most of the western world instead of Baltimore, MD.
And also not a good idea to think as a retirement place. Probably no big hospital near. There is a reason why people do bot want to live there.
In general, services of all kinds will be lacking and will remain so unless there is a massive demographic change (which is highly unlikely).
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have any idea of the thermal inertia of a castle? How are you going to heat it to an acceptable living temperature?
If you spend 700k eur on heating instead of on the purchase price you can stay warm for quite a while
Now, Italy is a bit warmer than the UK, and most castles a bit smaller, but castles in Italy can be on colder mountaintops.
Re: The Italian towns selling houses for €1
#76Not coincidentally, that's the same guy and same town that acquired the massive film collection from legendary NYC chain Kim's Video [1], ostensibly to create a cultural hub in Salemi, but instead they let the collection rot.
There's a documentary about it [2], but it's a bit insufferable at times, and you can basically get the gist from some articles [3].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim%27s_Video_and_Music
[2] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt24132144/
[3] https://news.artnet.com/art-world/kims-video-documentary-246...
Re: The Italian towns selling houses for €1
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even 5k for a house and some land seems like a pretty decent deal. What are the strings attached? Is there local mob extorting you if you move there?
The catch is that the entire area is in decline and there's little to do for social activities or employment. Declining cities in the US have tried this, and they are not places people generally want to live. This is the same scenario, just in a location that is romanticized by most of the western world instead of Baltimore, MD.
And I'm not talking Baltimore, which has a population of 600k and just a lot more baked in problems, I'm talking declining European "villages".
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
And also not a good idea to think as a retirement place. Probably no big hospital near. There is a reason why people do bot want to live there.
Yep, good point. In general, services of all kinds will be lacking and will remain so unless there is a massive demographic change (which is highly unlikely).
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
The catch is that the entire area is in decline and there's little to do for social activities or employment. Declining cities in the US have tried this, and they are not places people generally want to live. This is the same scenario, just in a location that is romanticized by most of the western world instead of Baltimore, MD.
You'd think a well placed billionaire (or even a "mere" 10s-100s millionaire) could do something interesting there. Buy up 10-20 vacant houses, renovate them, finance a couple of "fun" local entertainment businesses (idk craft breweries or barcades or minigolf or climbing gyms or escape rooms or whatever would be enough of a draw), fund a local arts/music program, and start a small tech/finance/consulting business in…
Re: The Italian towns selling houses for €1
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would argue it really isn't. Massachusetts still has some of the strongest union protections, is one of the most unionized states, and Baltimore has worked hard to maintain an incompetent government for decades. Given the outrageous rents in nearby states and cities Baltimore should have kept growing but has instead shrunk to a half million. The rust belt as a whole was primarily just companies escaping unions. Che…
I'm far from a union sympathizer, but you've already moved from your initial, absurdly simplistic description of the issue to a major symptom (decades of ineffective government, ranging from benign incompetence to intentional malice). Also, the rents in nearby areas to the north are far from outrageous (hint: there are no major cities for a couple hours), and the Baltimore metro area continues to grow because the are…