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Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Post by consumer451 »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #15
bikezen wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean like elons general edgelordness makes you think this wasnt intentional, or at least the intentional inclusion of what is likely a 4chan/8chan/similar corpus? What about the salute? The great white replacement theory promotion? Apartheid opinions? Allowing a mass proliferation of white nationalist and literal nazi twitter premium accounts? At some point, it has to click that musk likely shares these opinions.

The fact that X is deleting these posts suggests this was unexpected and undesired behavior. Look, I get it, you hate Musk, and we all have good reasons to do it.. I'm not defending the guy. But X is business and this is bad for business.

It’s in the business moving the Overton window, not making money.

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #15
bikezen wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean like elons general edgelordness makes you think this wasnt intentional, or at least the intentional inclusion of what is likely a 4chan/8chan/similar corpus? What about the salute? The great white replacement theory promotion? Apartheid opinions? Allowing a mass proliferation of white nationalist and literal nazi twitter premium accounts? At some point, it has to click that musk likely shares these opinions.

The fact that X is deleting these posts suggests this was unexpected and undesired behavior. Look, I get it, you hate Musk, and we all have good reasons to do it.. I'm not defending the guy. But X is business and this is bad for business.

He has literally said that he doesn't want business details to interfere with his mission to destroy "the woke mind virus", he literally told advertisers to "go fuck themselves" on this very issue.

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Post by combinator_y »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #2

Seems like a failure in quality control.

no, it's on purpose. if you follow what elon does, he is A/B testing and 'fixing' things when it goes viral.

He is doing the worst thing that could happen, leading us (users of x, USA, humanity) into the abyss with his obsession and sickness (yes he is sick and he should go see a therapist)

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Post by anuramat »

bigyabai wrote: post #60
bhouston wrote: post #38

Imagine if such a misaligned AI had control of robots and could affect the real world? It could decide to act on its misalignment in a more harmful was than just a few X posts.

[flagged]

What's your point, we should all wait until an actual genocide is a possibility, before we even acknowledge that a literal purpose-built nazi AI is concerning?

Even if it had nothing autonomous to it, how can "programmatic antisemitism funded by a nazi salute billionaire" ever sound ok?

Also, since when is a concussion just a minor inconvenience you can brush off?

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Post by arandomusername »

ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #64
arandomusername wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah Nazis were against social welfare, but calling him a nazi because of that is a stretch. supporting afd does not make him a nazi, nor is afd a nazi party. Elon supports Netanyahu and Israel, a jewish state. Elon is not a socialist, nor a nationalist. Elon is more free speech (not perfect) while Nazis are big on censorship. He is opposite to Nazi idealogy in most cases, specially the most important parts

Elon is only a fan of free speech for certain topics and certainly not for anyone critical of himself. https://observer.com/2022/12/elon-musk-suspend-twitter-accou...

Political accounts

    Ye (formerly Kanye West) (@kanyewest), rapper
Yup, Elon is truly a nazi.

I did say it's not perfect. but out of all mainstream social media platforms, twitter is the least censored

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Post by salawat »

jonnycomputer wrote: post #2

Seems like a failure in quality control.

You misunderstand. There is no Quality Control you can do for these things. They're ill-conditioned function imitators. Small changes in input, yield massive changes in output. You can't QC that. You can only clean up after it.

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Post by root_axis »

arandomusername wrote: post #75
ndsipa_pomu wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon is only a fan of free speech for certain topics and certainly not for anyone critical of himself. https://observer.com/2022/12/elon-musk-suspend-twitter-accou...

Political accounts Ye (formerly Kanye West) (@kanyewest), rapper Yup, Elon is truly a nazi. I did say it's not perfect. but out of all mainstream social media platforms, twitter is the least censored

It is the most censored. It's also the only social media site where the owner personally bans and suppresses people and and posts he doesn't like.

We also know that since the Elon take over, compliance with government takedowns has sharply increased.

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Post by ceejayoz »

arandomusername wrote: post #47
daedrdev wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon seems to be a Nazi, or his views are extremely close

Ah yeah, because Nazis were big on importing millions of Indian workers. What views of him are actually close to Nazis? Dude loves jews even

The Nazis loved imported labor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_labour_under_German_rul...

The main obstacle to bringing in Indian workers was the fact that the Brits controlled India and were unlikely to share.

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Post by Sabinus »

blargey wrote: post #52
ujkhsjkdhf234 wrote: post #32

Isn't this the second time this has happened? Like, happening once is crazy enough but for it to happen twice? There is clearly some tampering happening with people trying to coax it a certain way. I also have to question the people who work at xAI. Are you all on board with Elon's very clear beliefs? Anything for a high enough paycheck?

At least the third time this year, but every post on HN related to grok's prompt gets flagged soon after, with a rigor not shared by any other political or "celebrity" topic.

I am always reminded of HN's interesting flagging habits when I think back to how well upvoted and certainly not flagged the Pope's death and appointment news articles were.
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