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Adding a feature because ChatGPT incorrectly thinks it exists

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Re: Adding a feature because ChatGPT incorrectly thinks it exists

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Post by Sharlin »

felixarba wrote: post #39

> ChatGPT was outright lying to people. And making us look bad in the process, setting false expectations about our service. I find it interesting that any user would attribute this issue to Soundslice. As a user, I would be annoyed that GPT is lying and wouldn't think twice about Soundslice looking bad in the process

A frighteningly large fraction of non-technical population doesn't know that LLMs hallucinate all the time and takes everything they say totally uncritically. And AI companies do almost nothing to discourage that interpretation, either.

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dingnuts wrote: post #60

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Plenty of people have English as a second language. Having an LLM help them rewrite their writing to make it better conform to a language they are not fluent in feels entirely appropriate to me.

I don't care if they used an LLM provided they put their best effort in to confirm that it's clearly communicating the message they are intending to communicate.

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Post by kragen »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #65
kragen wrote: post #30

I've found this to be one of the most useful ways to use (at least) GPT-4 for programming. Instead of telling it how an API works, I make it guess, maybe starting with some example code to which a feature needs to be added. Sometimes it comes up with a better approach than I had thought of. Then I change the API so that its code works. Conversely, I sometimes present it with some existing code and ask it what it does…

I used this to great success just this morning. I told the AI to write me some unit tests. It flailed and failed badly at that task. But how it failed was instructive, and uncovered a bug in the code I wanted to test.

Haha, that's awesome! Are you going to change the interface? What was the bug?

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Post by Sharlin »

amelius wrote: post #12
shhsshs wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Repeats" may be the term you're looking for. That would be interesting, however in some pieces it could make the overall document MUCH longer. It would be similar to loop unrolling.

I don't care if the document becomes longer. Finding repeat signs is driving me nuts :)

Why?

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Post by kragen »

simonw wrote: post #72
dingnuts wrote: post #60

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Plenty of people have English as a second language. Having an LLM help them rewrite their writing to make it better conform to a language they are not fluent in feels entirely appropriate to me. I don't care if they used an LLM provided they put their best effort in to confirm that it's clearly communicating the message they are intending to communicate.

Yeah, my wife was just telling me how much Grammarly has helped her with improving her English.

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simonw wrote: post #72
dingnuts wrote: post #60

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Plenty of people have English as a second language. Having an LLM help them rewrite their writing to make it better conform to a language they are not fluent in feels entirely appropriate to me. I don't care if they used an LLM provided they put their best effort in to confirm that it's clearly communicating the message they are intending to communicate.

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Post by kragen »

dingnuts wrote: post #76
simonw wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of people have English as a second language. Having an LLM help them rewrite their writing to make it better conform to a language they are not fluent in feels entirely appropriate to me. I don't care if they used an LLM provided they put their best effort in to confirm that it's clearly communicating the message they are intending to communicate.

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On the contrary, I've found Simon's opinions informative and valuable for many years, since I first saw the lightning talk at PyCon about what became Django, which IIRC was significantly Simon's work. I see nothing in his recent writing to suggest that this has changed. Rather, I have found his writing to be the most reliable and high-information-density information about the rapid evolution of AI.

Language only works as a form of communication when knowledge of vocabulary, grammar, etc., is shared between interlocutors, even though indeed there is no objectively correct truth there, only social convention. Foreign language learners have to acquire that knowledge, which is difficult and slow. For every "turn of phrase" you "enjoy" there are a hundred frustrating failures to communicate, which can sometimes be serious; I can think of one occasion when I told someone I was delighted when she told me her boyfriend had dumped her, and another occasion when I thought someone was accusing me of lying, both because of my limited fluency in the languages we were using, French and Spanish respectively.

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