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Nvidia won, we all lost

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Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#71

Post by rightbyte »

frollogaston wrote: post #61
__turbobrew__ wrote: post #49

> With over 90% of the PC market running on NVIDIA tech, they’re the clear winner of the GPU race. The losers are every single one of us. I have been rocking AMD GPU ever since the drivers were upstreamed into the linux kernel. No regrets. I have also realized that there is a lot out there in the world besides video games, and getting all in a huff about it isn’t worth my time or energy. But consumer gotta consoooooo…

Also playing PC video games doesn't even require a Nvidia GPU. It does sorta require Windows. I don't want to use that, so guess I lost the ability to waste tons of time playing boring games, oh no.

Steam's Wine thing works quite well. And yes you need to fiddle and do work arounds including giving up getting some games to work.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Post by frollogaston »

rightbyte wrote: post #71
frollogaston wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also playing PC video games doesn't even require a Nvidia GPU. It does sorta require Windows. I don't want to use that, so guess I lost the ability to waste tons of time playing boring games, oh no.

Steam's Wine thing works quite well. And yes you need to fiddle and do work arounds including giving up getting some games to work.

Yeah, but it's not worth. Apparently the "gold" list on ProtonDB is games that allegedly work with tweaks. So like, drop in this random DLL and it might fix the game. I'm not gonna spend time on that.

Last one I ever tried was https://www.protondb.com/app/813780 with comments like "works perfectly, except multiplayer is completely broken" and the workaround has changed 3 times so far, also it lags no matter what. Gave up after stealing 4 different DLLs from Windows. It doesn't even have anticheat, it's just cause of some obscure math library.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#73

Post by layoric »

neuroelectron wrote: post #42

Seems a bit calculated and agreed across the industry. What can really make sense of Microsoft's acquisitions and ruining of billion dollar IPs? It's a manufactured collapse of the gaming industry. They want to centralize control of the market and make it a service based (rent seeking) sector. I'm not saying they all got together and decided this together but their wonks are probably all saying the same thing. The ma…

Valve is a private company so doesn’t have the same growth at all costs incentives. To Microsoft, the share price is everything.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#74

Post by Retr0id »

jekwoooooe wrote: post #45

This guy makes some good points but he clearly has a bone to pick. Calling dlss snake oil was where I stopped reading

Yeah, computer graphics has always been "software trickery" all the way down. There are valid points to be made about DLSS being marketed in misleading ways, but I don't think it being "software trickery" is a problem at all.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#75

Post by cosmic_cheese »

rightbyte wrote: post #71
frollogaston wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also playing PC video games doesn't even require a Nvidia GPU. It does sorta require Windows. I don't want to use that, so guess I lost the ability to waste tons of time playing boring games, oh no.

Steam's Wine thing works quite well. And yes you need to fiddle and do work arounds including giving up getting some games to work.

Yeah Proton covers a lot of titles. It’s mainly games that use the most draconian forms of anticheat that don’t work.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

#76

Post by wmf »

snitty wrote: post #51

NVIDIA is, and will be for at least the next year or two, supply constrained. They only have so much capacity at TSMC for all the chips, and the lion's share of that is going to be going enterprise chips, which sell for an order of magnitude more than the consumer chips. It's hard to get too offended by them shirking the consumer marker right now when they're printing money with their enterprise business.

They could be more honest about it though.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Post by shmerl »

> ... NVENC are pretty much indispensable

What's so special about NVENC that Vulkan video or VAAPI can't provide?

> AMD also has accelerated video transcoding tech but for some reason nobody seems to be willing to implement it into their products

OBS works with VAAPI fine. Looking forward to them adding Vulkan video as an option.

Either way, as a Linux gamer I haven't touched Nvidia in years. AMD is a way better experience.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Post by davidee »

snitty wrote: post #51

NVIDIA is, and will be for at least the next year or two, supply constrained. They only have so much capacity at TSMC for all the chips, and the lion's share of that is going to be going enterprise chips, which sell for an order of magnitude more than the consumer chips. It's hard to get too offended by them shirking the consumer marker right now when they're printing money with their enterprise business.

Not personally offended, but when a company makes a big stink around several gross exaggerations (performance, price, availability) it's not hard to understand why folks are kicking up their own stink.

Nvidia could have said "we're prioritizing enterprise" but instead they put on a big horse and pony show about their consumer GPUs.

I really like the Gamer's Nexus paper launch shirt. ;)

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