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It's pedantic - it's what's known as a homelab. I have one at home, too, running pricetracker.wtf, among other things. It has a 56G network switch i will never be able to saturate, more compute than i'll probably need. Looking to add 24 disk JBOD - i will never probably saturate or fill either.
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Buy a house now. It's usually cheaper since apartments (in expensive metro areas) are often tantamount to setting money on fire. :o) Where I live now (in a house) is way, way cheaper and I get regional co-op 2.5 Gbps internet for $90/month.
> Buy a house now. It's usually cheaper since apartments (in expensive metro areas) are often tantamount to setting money on fire. :o) Not really. I live in an expensive area. I pay $4K+/month in rent for a nice apartment, and livable, nice houses here cost $3M+ which is over 700 months worth of rent. 1. The math doesn't work. 2. I don't have 3 million dollars. 3. I'm not going to fall into the stupid American trap o…
Except you're paying a landlord money that could be going towards property that you own, and that equity is portable.
You won't have any wealth when you become very old and cannot work. You and your family will end up with nothing.
Borrowing has to be sensible for income ratio.
YMMV, but middle-/lower-income people spending an unreasonable % on rent to live in Manhattan or SF are fighting a losing battle they cannot afford to play.
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I have a rack for convenience, not education. It got rid of all of my wiring mess since 90% of my networked stuff just lives together and now uses a single UPS. It's also relatively easy to move from place to place as I move apartments. Also, enterprise equipment just works better. After a few Comcast failures during meetings I now have a 5G failover; I also firewall corporate laptops from the rest of my home equipme…
Buy a house now. It's usually cheaper since apartments (in expensive metro areas) are often tantamount to setting money on fire. :o) Where I live now (in a house) is way, way cheaper and I get regional co-op 2.5 Gbps internet for $90/month.
And after seeing all the unbelievably expensive surprise repair bills my homeowner friends have had to deal with, I'm not convinced I'm lighting money on fire, either.
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> Buy a house now. It's usually cheaper since apartments (in expensive metro areas) are often tantamount to setting money on fire. :o) Not really. I live in an expensive area. I pay $4K+/month in rent for a nice apartment, and livable, nice houses here cost $3M+ which is over 700 months worth of rent. 1. The math doesn't work. 2. I don't have 3 million dollars. 3. I'm not going to fall into the stupid American trap o…
I played that game in my 20's spending $8k/month on rent, but only for a short time. That's crazy rent. There are probably much cheaper areas nearby. There are plenty of areas where very nice homes are $200-400k. Except you're paying a landlord money that could be going towards property that you own, and that equity is portable. You won't have any wealth when you become very old and cannot work. You and your family w…
What do you propose? Borrow money and buy a house for millions that I can't afford? Sounds like a faster way to go broke.
Also, we all saw how the LA fires went. You'd better have $6 million in cash if you want a $3 million house. $3 million for the house, $3 million for a backup house when the first one burns down and insurance decides not to pay for it. You do not have "equity" in anything that is flammable. Flammable == disposable. Try gold bars instead.
If I could buy a house for $300K that was livable, not moldy, and not look like it was going to come crashing down during the next big earthquake, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
> There are plenty of areas where very nice homes are $200-400k
Yeah, I know there are houses for $300K in the middle of Arkansas. But there are no jobs there, I'm not going to live on burgers and fries, and all the goddamn tech bro CEOs in the valley have decided on RTO. At least there is real food here.
My real plan though: Work and save up enough money that I can live the rest of my life in Asia on my savings.
> unreasonable % on rent
I don't spend a big % of my income on rent.
I DO spend a big % of my income on taxes. That's the real problem.
It is a bit of a shame, IMO, that the concept of an always-on home computer has basically died out, or maybe never even really caught on. A sort of digital shadow of the house, it could run a home email server and do any home automation/content hosting. Anyway, I think it is unusual enough that it will need describing whatever he calls it, so no need to stress about the name. I’d call it the home computer, haha. Ever…
> that the concept of an always-on home computer has basically died out I just don't see where it would fit into my life. I used to have an old desktop computer that I'd co-opted into an OpenBSD switch living on top of a cupboard when I was 19 or so, and it was a fun experiment for about a year, when the tiny amount of extra hassle it provided with the almost zero amount of extra benefit meant one day it was switched…
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> that the concept of an always-on home computer has basically died out I just don't see where it would fit into my life. I used to have an old desktop computer that I'd co-opted into an OpenBSD switch living on top of a cupboard when I was 19 or so, and it was a fun experiment for about a year, when the tiny amount of extra hassle it provided with the almost zero amount of extra benefit meant one day it was switched…
I use a free-tier Oracle Cloud VPS as a wireguard relay for all my public services. Yes, Oracle sucks donkey balls to deal with, but it's pretty set and forget, and they give you essentially unlimited bandwidth (like 50TB/mo each way or something I've never been able to get remotely close to)
> But I don’t consider this a homelab, because I don’t use it as a lab. It sits there, running the ten or so services I self-host for me and my family. When I work on it, it is for regular maintainence, incremental improvement, or to install new services. I do enjoy working on it, and I’ve learned a lot along the way, but these are merely side effects.
> But I think it is interesting that within the set of people who keep servers in their home, there are two subsets (with considerable overlap) whose reasons for doing so are sort of orthogonal. The ‘homelab’ moniker perfectly fits one group, and it would be nice for the self-hosters whose setups are not homelabs to have a cool name too.
If you want to split hairs on naming, then the problem here is that you're imputing an overly strict definition onto the term 'homelab' to not include your use case, complaining that your use case is different to this definition, and then failing to see that the term is generally used loosely enough that it does your use case.
Call it what you will, but from your description of things, you're using the server and associated tech as a homelab.
I'd allow you to call it a "it's not a homelab, but" if you want permission to use a different term... ;P
Normal people don’t have rack-mounted servers in their homes to “self-host” ten services for their family. If you have the skills to do that kind of thing it may very well make sense to do so but you’re basically signing up to do that as a hobby. And that’s fine! Hobbies can be productive! Some people keep chickens as a hobby and feed the eggs to their families. But if you’re running rack mounted servers in your house as a hobby, that’s called a homelab.
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of course you can not have your whole house be build like that, but calling one room as lab is allowed in most continental europe countries. noone cares in Russia etc, you just have to make small donation to your public official (if they even care/notice) and everything is fine, even those pizzaboxes... EDIT: in most countries there are devices which can not be connected to grid without electrician in any case, like…
Well in Finland there is nothing like this for sure. You cannot do 230V electricity work regardless of what you call the rooms. I would really like to hear more about this in other European countries.