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Using an $8 smart outlet to avoid brainrot

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Re: Using an $8 smart outlet to avoid brainrot

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For some reason, I thought this switch altered the electrical power for the router and thus acting as a physical barrier, not allowing it to request those servers. I guess my imagination just went wild.

I've thought about putting mine on one of those mechanical timers to kill it outside business hours.

Re: Using an $8 smart outlet to avoid brainrot

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Guarantee the OP used this for a week and never touched it again. Those without self control cannot be trusted if they hold the switch.

I think you'd be surprised how a little bit of difficulty can be enough to break binge cycles. I killed both my hackernews and reddit addictions years ago by just adding them to /etc/hosts. It was easy to change and sometimes I did but that was enough that I didn't dwell on those sites anymore. Recently I've written a chrome extension that does this much better. Hopefully it gets approved today or tomorrow. Maybe I'l…

/etc/hosts works great. A dedicated device for browsing such content is useful too.

Re: Using an $8 smart outlet to avoid brainrot

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post #70

Guarantee the OP used this for a week and never touched it again. Those without self control cannot be trusted if they hold the switch.

I think you'd be surprised how a little bit of difficulty can be enough to break binge cycles. I killed both my hackernews and reddit addictions years ago by just adding them to /etc/hosts. It was easy to change and sometimes I did but that was enough that I didn't dwell on those sites anymore. Recently I've written a chrome extension that does this much better. Hopefully it gets approved today or tomorrow. Maybe I'l…

Convenience is the biggest drug of them all, if you can break that then you can go a long way to breaking a habit. Even just putting up minor inconvenience can help slow the habit formed behavior.

If you have a food addiction, remove all the pre-packed easy stuff. If you have to cook a meal to get the calories, you now have a step speed bump to the habit. It doesn't mean you cannot eat, it just stops that grab and go mentality. Same thing with the fridges of the internet (social media).

Re: Using an $8 smart outlet to avoid brainrot

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One thing that finally worked for me was using: https://one-sec.app/ It basically forces you to do a little breathing exercise before you can visit the site that you have on its block list. It has been life changing. It adds enough friction for me to stop any impulsive visits but also is not so annoying that I would completely disable it in a weak moment. One Sec was developed by someone with ADHD, I think and it def…

I quickly adapted and this barely slowed me down. I recommend the following iOS apps: 1. Jomo - you can create block lists of distracting apps. Like OneSec, when you try to open a blocked app, it makes you wait 5 seconds or more. More importantly, on that screen, you can select 5 minutes, so that it only gives you 5 minutes of unblocked access. 2. Brick - a physical device with an NFC tag you put somewhere. Block all…

In a similar category is my Run for Fun app which lets you block addictive apps of your choosing until you earn screen time points by exercising (running, biking, exercising etc):

https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/run-for-fun-screen-time-focus/...

Re: Using an $8 smart outlet to avoid brainrot

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Guarantee the OP used this for a week and never touched it again. Those without self control cannot be trusted if they hold the switch.

> Guarantee the OP used this for a week and never touched it again. Those without self control cannot be trusted if they hold the switch.

It amazes me how much work one does to lift barriers to themselves, but so little to actually not go through them.

Re: Using an $8 smart outlet to avoid brainrot

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post #70

Guarantee the OP used this for a week and never touched it again. Those without self control cannot be trusted if they hold the switch.

I think you'd be surprised how a little bit of difficulty can be enough to break binge cycles. I killed both my hackernews and reddit addictions years ago by just adding them to /etc/hosts. It was easy to change and sometimes I did but that was enough that I didn't dwell on those sites anymore. Recently I've written a chrome extension that does this much better. Hopefully it gets approved today or tomorrow. Maybe I'l…

Your comment is on HN, you want to talk about HN, on HN.

How can we be sure you aren’t just an average guy when it comes to self reflection?

Re: Using an $8 smart outlet to avoid brainrot

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The reason why social media and similar websites now have infinite scroll is because the next page button provided you with a circuit breaker to stop and reconsider if you actually wanted to continue or if you were just mindlessly scrolling. So if you have a genuine intention not to use certain websites at particular times (e.g. work time), then having any kind of forced interruption can be useful for changing that b…

The friction makes me want to disable the measure before it makes me want to stop the activity. And unlike paging in forums, I can disable it. That’s why these measures never work for me.

Fundamentally it comes down to what you value.

If you don't actually want to stop, then these opportunities for pause do nothing, because in that pause you reaffirm that you do want to continue the behaviour.

This ties into why addiction is so powerful, while many people know their addictions are bad, they enjoy them and don't actually want to stop. I.E. They don't value the results of cessation versus keeping the addiction.

It's entirely possible to reach for your phone, then tap an app or load a website on your computer while being semi-aware of your actions, and this is typical for people with ingrained behaviours. These people can start scrolling instagram or twitter without really thinking about it. Having a forced circuit breaker gives these people an opportunity to stop and reconsider their actions.

At the end of the day only you have full agency over yourself.

Re: Using an $8 smart outlet to avoid brainrot

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The friction makes me want to disable the measure before it makes me want to stop the activity. And unlike paging in forums, I can disable it. That’s why these measures never work for me.

Fundamentally it comes down to what you value. If you don't actually want to stop, then these opportunities for pause do nothing, because in that pause you reaffirm that you do want to continue the behaviour. This ties into why addiction is so powerful, while many people know their addictions are bad, they enjoy them and don't actually want to stop. I.E. They don't value the results of cessation versus keeping the ad…

Let me try to illustrate: I might want to stop after the "circuit breaker" comes up for the tenth time. But the nine times before are annoying enough that I'll disable it before I reach the tenth time. Maybe not initially, but after a few days. In other words, the friction vs. frequency they exhibit, in conjunction with how easy or difficult they can be turned off, makes them not work for me. And I haven't found anything of that kind that works well. Either the friction is high enough that I'll rather disable it, or it's too low to actually serve as an effective deterrence. What would be needed is something that "ramps up" in just the right way.

Re: Using an $8 smart outlet to avoid brainrot

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Guarantee the OP used this for a week and never touched it again. Those without self control cannot be trusted if they hold the switch.

I've had a time limit set on my phone for twitter + instagram to only allow 15 minutes of usage per day. There's an "ignore limit" button when you go over the time but it's surprising how few times I've actually pressed it. 99% of the time I go "yep, that's enough of that for today" and close the app
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