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Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

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Post by ddtaylor »

subscribed wrote: post #67
ddtaylor wrote: post #51

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As someone who has been using Steam since I had to put my WONID from my Half-Life CD, what's wrong with Steam?

I can't use Workshop mod with my GOG version of the game, but can use Nexus Mod mod with any version. At least I didn't found a way, and that one reason alone is enough for me to avoid the Workshop.

It depends on the game and what the mod maker decided.

I made the mod for the Divinity: Original Sin that changes a few bytes in the game XML files to allow for 4 players in game instead of just 2, since it was mostly supported but probably removed for console porting simplicity. This is a braindead simple mod that just needs to find some XML tag inside the embedded EXE/DLL file and update it. I didn't even have to update any checksums, etc.

When I published the mod I chose to target the hashes/offsets of the Steam EXE since that was what everyone had. So, while I didn't target the workshop (as this modification could not be done with it) I did target Steam end-users.

Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

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Post by chownie »

amiga386 wrote: post #63
AlexandrB wrote: post #36

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Who are these nazis you're talking about? People posting a mod that removes a trigger warning from a remake of a 20 year old game[1]? Some pretty weak-sauce nazis. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/1atpq7d/nexus_mod...

Don't forget the ultimate crime against humanity: changing a remade RPG's "body type 1" and "body type 2" character creation options back to "male" and "female" as they were in the original game. https://www.neogaf.com/threads/mod-that-restores-male-female...

Yes! Thank you! This is actually the perfect example, because that mod wasn't removed and the author was banned after he specifically said he was making the mod for the purpose of upsetting trans people. Even better with the context that he was linking to kiwifarms, a known hotspot for online harassment.

Nothing proves with more certainty that the GP of this thread has it backwards, the removed mods were uploaded with bad intentions.

Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

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Post by subscribed »

ddtaylor wrote: post #45
xingped wrote: post #8

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I'll never understand why Steam Workshop didn't take off as the de facto mod delivery platform over NexusMods or other random sites. It seemed perfectly positioned to do so.

Workshop has taken off a bit here and there, but it's worth remembering that basically when Steam Workshop was primed to take off was when Skyrim modding was becoming mainstream. I don't know the specifics of it, but I think the Steam Workshop had some "paid mods" and that rubbed everyone the wrong way during a time when modding was not monetized. There is a bigger question that is unsolved, both ethically and legall…

a) yes if they sell it

b) no, why? does the carmaker get a cut from the unbranded accessories? If anything, it should be the other way round as the Oblivion reboot proves.

Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

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Post by Covzire »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #61
Covzire wrote: post #56

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That misses the point entirely. You know how bigoted people were in the 1970s right, when video games were still in their infancy? What if the early game industry or congress and the courts had decided that any depiction of a woman in games must conform to the moral standards of the day, so that if you have a female, she must be either a straight virgin, married to 1 faithful man, an old maid, a widow or dead. Thats…

> Thats exactly what is happening today but in reverse. No, it's not. For a start: it's not some overlording organization demanding this from the top: it's a ground-swell of people who come from diverse backgrounds entering the industry and making their voices heard. For another it isn't an edict at all from an organization, government-affiliated or otherwise. It's companies realizing that making inclusive games boos…

>>If you don't like nonbinary pronouns, don't use them.

That's not even what I'm talking about, it's "Body Type A" or "Body Type B" where the proverbial child has been sawn in half so nobody can have it, these mods restore the choice back to people who have a legitimate claim TO their pronouns.

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Post by DrillShopper »

Covzire wrote: post #74
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #61

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> Thats exactly what is happening today but in reverse. No, it's not. For a start: it's not some overlording organization demanding this from the top: it's a ground-swell of people who come from diverse backgrounds entering the industry and making their voices heard. For another it isn't an edict at all from an organization, government-affiliated or otherwise. It's companies realizing that making inclusive games boos…

>>If you don't like nonbinary pronouns, don't use them. That's not even what I'm talking about, it's "Body Type A" or "Body Type B" where the proverbial child has been sawn in half so nobody can have it, these mods restore the choice back to people who have a legitimate claim TO their pronouns.

> these mods restore the choice back to people who have a legitimate claim TO their pronouns

Excuse me, what?

Who is the pronoun gatekeeper here? Who decides who has a legitimate claim to pronouns?

Sounds pretty transphobic to me, tbqh.

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Post by altairprime »

diggan wrote: post #39
belval wrote: post #33

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Yes it is very interesting how the comment section is overtly negative yet NexusMods is one of the rare thing that "just works" for me. Even my girlfriend who is not well-versed in tech at all mods her Skyrim/Oblivion herself thanks to how easy it is with NexusMods.

Judging by your two's comments, there seem to be a mismatch what people think of when they hear "Nexus Mods". Originally, it was just a website where people uploaded mods, and others downloaded them and manually re-organized stuff on disk, or with some game-specific mod manager. But what you two seem to be talking about, is the relatively new mod manager that Nexus also has, which basically allows you to one-click in…

As an occasional user of either form of NexusMods, both have been worth paying for in the recent past. The last time I played through SDV I had approximately thirty mods that I hand-installed because I was patching them locally to improve weather handling and learning C# from it. I’ve also used the mod manager to do a couple other games that badly need the improvements (“Stop Wasting My Time” is the best mod ever) and that I wasn’t modifying further. In both circumstances, I paid for a membership to support them, and I ended it when I stopped playing the game I was modding. Glad they exist and will continue to pay them when I use them, especially if they continue to be opinionated along current lines.

Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

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Post by amiga386 »

ddtaylor wrote: post #51
selfhoster11 wrote: post #19

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Not everyone has or wants Steam. I'd rather deal with NexusMods than with Valve as a GOG user.

As someone who has been using Steam since I had to put my WONID from my Half-Life CD, what's wrong with Steam?

1. For the most part[*], publishers on Steam use DRM, from kernel-level DRM which can crash and pwn your computer, to Valve's relatively lukewarm Steamworks., whereas GOG primarily (exclusively?) sells DRM-free games.

There are lots of ideological and practical concerns with DRM, I won't list them here other than to say game players want to be in control of their machines and their experience, not let game publishers control their machines.

2. Steam policy is that you can only run the very latest release of a game (it will update when you go online, and you can't remain offline forever). It takes away your choice to reject publishers bad updates - for example, when 2K forcibly added their marketplace/launcher malware to Bioshock games, breaking them on Linux, Steam was their henchman/goon forcing it on everyone.

[*] Not everbody! https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_g...

Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

DrillShopper wrote: post #75
Covzire wrote: post #74

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>>If you don't like nonbinary pronouns, don't use them. That's not even what I'm talking about, it's "Body Type A" or "Body Type B" where the proverbial child has been sawn in half so nobody can have it, these mods restore the choice back to people who have a legitimate claim TO their pronouns.

> these mods restore the choice back to people who have a legitimate claim TO their pronouns Excuse me, what? Who is the pronoun gatekeeper here? Who decides who has a legitimate claim to pronouns? Sounds pretty transphobic to me, tbqh.

> Who decides who has a legitimate claim to pronouns?

The normal people, of course. :eyeroll:

I just can't fathom giving enough of a shit that people different from me exist and are doing things I don't want to do, in places I am not, with people I am not.

Genuinely, get a life y'all. This is so sad at this point.

Re: NexusMods Changes Hands

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Post by altairprime »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #30
selfhoster11 wrote: post #16

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Or they could work on switching to CDNs or P2P for file delivery instead.

Honestly no good reason a mod site couldn't be pure torrent based, could have even built it into their own mod manager they had.

They’ll still end up being the seeder 99.999% of the time, and their audience is typically quite hostile towards them for trying to charge the bandwidth costs to their audience in any manner whatsoever, whether it’s subscription fees or upload bandwidth.
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