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Re: Steve Jobs would have fired everyone

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I think people would probably feel less strongly about design decisions like these if their customization weren't confined to the Accessibility settings. Same thing goes for, say, the caption settings on tvOS. It's an interesting UX decision to always confine those settings to just that category when it's perfectly normal to change and customize settings to their own personal preference. But Apple are also big believ…

Apple makes a big deal about how much they focus on accessibility (which they honestly do), so it might be that the Accessibility team is the only group that has the internal clout to push back on these types of design changes. As long as the setting is categorized as accessibility, the design teams might just have to live with it.

It’s very possible that if the settings weren’t under accessibility, they might not exist at all.

Re: Steve Jobs would have fired everyone

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post #9

Yeah there needs to be more background blur but I think that would fix it.

That's not enough. What if the background is solid white, or white with few details? Blurring just leads to white-on-white.

That's not hard to solve, you just need a good blending algorithm. For example: https://leloctai.com/asset/translucentimage/image/flatten.we...

Re: Steve Jobs would have fired everyone

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post #45

I know people hate this but it shows a huge problem: innovation in operating system design. It's really a tough one. You really want the basic functionality to be very stable and unchanging to save yourself and others incompatibility pain over the next decades. OTOH, you need to release a new OS every now and again to show the markets that you are doing something. So they did a cosmetic upgrade like changing the grap…

UI is fashion-driven like clothing or furniture or car design. That's not new, it's just hard to admit for us techies that such a thing exists in our world. And just like with fashion, some changes are not for 'better' but for 'cooler' or 'more interesting'. The question is how far on the 'worse' scale you're willing to go to get up on the 'cool' scale. Otherwise, we'd all still be running Windows Server 2000...

Or perhaps, it's for "designers keeping themselves employed"

Re: Steve Jobs would have fired everyone

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I know people hate this but it shows a huge problem: innovation in operating system design. It's really a tough one. You really want the basic functionality to be very stable and unchanging to save yourself and others incompatibility pain over the next decades. OTOH, you need to release a new OS every now and again to show the markets that you are doing something. So they did a cosmetic upgrade like changing the grap…

IMHO the next actual OS design innovation isnt stylistic, its AI integration and everyone knows it. Siri was a fun toy, but "Siri except not an idiot" is a revolutionary step, and how to tastefully integrate her is an interesting, challenging, and active problem with tremendous upside. I know enterprise moves slow but do they need Open AI and others to build a fully functioning alternative OS before they wake up?

> IMHO the next actual OS design innovation isnt stylistic, its AI integration and everyone knows it.

I'd be careful with "everyone" in this context. So far, almost every review I read/watched sees Apple Intelligence as underwhelming at the very least (I ignore the backlash at the ad campaign as I believe Apple understood by now these ads were really stupid).

Re: Steve Jobs would have fired everyone

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The "it would have been different under Steve Jobs" trope is coming up every so often when Apple introduces a radical new feature. Oftentimes I don't agree but in this case I absolutely do. A huge amount of engineering to get these shader effects right, but the outcome will be that the platforms will look more like a fruit salad and less coherent. Companies that invested in React Native, Flutter, Tauri, or alternativ…

As with everything related to Apple, most likely this change is related to something coming in a year or two that needs transparent widgets. Now devs have time to adjust their applications for this system, which makes the next update easier. Could be AR glasses or a consumer level VR headset, or something completely different.

Looks quite relevant for Vision Pro, transparent screens, AR and such. I think that's the rational. Maybe a transparent iPhone screen coming up?

Re: Steve Jobs would have fired everyone

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post #15

I can't get over this from Apple specifically, I offer joke about how UI/UX designers just make work for themselves but here someone was missing to call these things out. The rounded edges are all a hodgepodge, the different levels of transparency is uncomfortable and the overall lack of coherence is really bad..

it's incredibly bad in every way and people defending it are completely out of touch

I used it and it’s readable (at least to me).

I did not particularly like it nor hated it before using it; I just went with an open mind, and it’s ok (on iPhone, on macOS it sucks, at least for now).

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