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Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

#71

Have they reveled anything similar to Claude Code yet? I sure hope they are saving that for I/O next month... this video/photo reveals are too gimmicky for my liking, alas I'm probably biased because I don't really have a use for them.

Google I/O is happening right now. This is one of the announcements, I believe.

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

#72

Like most AI image or video generation tools, they produce results that look good at first glance, but the more you watch, the more flaws and sloppiness you notice, and they really lack storytelling

You should see the terrible results it's possible to generate with AfterEffects, Blender, Houdini, etc..

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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post #70

This is technically impressive and I commend the team that brought it to life. It makes me sad, though. I wish we were pushing AI more to automate non-creative work and not burying the creatives among us in a pile of AI generated content.

I’m a creative and I’m really glad that more people can express themselves

Just wanted to add representation to that feeling

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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post #40

After doing some testing, Imagen 4 doesn't score any higher than Imagen 3 on my comparison chart, approximately ~60% prompt adherence accuracy. https://genai-showdown.specr.net

How do companies like https://icon.com do their image Gen if the existing SOTA for prompt adherence is so poor?

fine tuning and prompt techniques can go a long way. That + cherrypicking results

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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post #5

Of course they had to name a film making proprietary tool with the name of an award winning film made using open-source tools released less than a year ago...

Seems pretty obvious that they named it after Facebook's JS type checker from 2015

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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post #70

This is technically impressive and I commend the team that brought it to life. It makes me sad, though. I wish we were pushing AI more to automate non-creative work and not burying the creatives among us in a pile of AI generated content.

Do you find it sad that people can use recordings, and don't have to hire musicians any more?

Re: Veo 3 and Imagen 4, and a new tool for filmmaking called Flow

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post #66

It finally feels like the professional tools have greatly outpaced the open source versions. While wan and hunyuan are solid free options, the latest from Google and Runway have started to feel like a league above. Interestingly it feels like the biggest differentiator is editing tools - ability to prompt motion, direction, cuts, or weaving in audio, rather than just pure ability to one shot. These larger companies a…

I think open source still has an important advantage in the pro environment despite being less convenient, and it's the possibility of adding things in between the generation process like control net, and custom loras with new concepts or characters.

Plus in local generation you're not limited by the platform moderation that can be too strict and arbitrary and fail with the false positives.

Yes comfy UI can be intimidating at first vs an easy to use chatgpt-like ui, but the lack of control make me feel these tools will still not being used in professional productions in the short term, but more in small YouTube channels and smaller productions.

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