Why does your car need an internet connection? I don't use the built in maps since my phone has a map and a connection.
what is the killer app of a connected car? businesses might want to watch their fleet but does anyone else care
Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war
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Re: Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war
#72So I have serious thoughts about driving “software defined vehicles” in the future. I mean, and the article has confirmed this sufficiently, the core competence of the established car manufacturers is not software. I don't trust the newcomers like Tesla or the Chinese manufacturers for the time being. In my opinion, the same standards should apply to software in motor vehicles as in the aviation industry. And there c…
Just buy a car from the people, who dedicate their career/lives to making cars and have done so for decades. You aren't smarter then them. Your "serious thoughts" and "opinion" about what standards should apply are not yours to worry about.
Re: Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war
#73Remove the LTE chip and all functionality related to ads, support wireless CarPlay and android auto, and use physical buttons. You’ll win every award in the industry.
> Remove the LTE chip
You can't, it's required for eCall which is a mandatory feature in Europe.
Unfortunately, it's fraught with issues, especially for the very first eCall modules where the hardware supported only 3G (HSPA)... which is being phased out across Europe together with GPRS (1G)/EDGE (2G), leaving these cars without a working eCall system - and no upgraded hardware modules in many cases.
Re: Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war
#74Why does your car need an internet connection? I don't use the built in maps since my phone has a map and a connection. what is the killer app of a connected car? businesses might want to watch their fleet but does anyone else care
to be honest, we are now at the stage where everything that CAN get an internet connection, WILL get one eventually. Be it your god damn dryer or fridge or lawnmower...
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#75Terrible mobile website for what its worth. Two sentences per in paragraph ad and I couldn’t fully read the article because it bogged my se2 down to a crawl. How I wish I could jailbreak this phone and install a real adblocker but alas not on magic version number.
If ios allows private dns you can set it to adguard dns, to get some level of adblocking
Re: Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war
#76So I have serious thoughts about driving “software defined vehicles” in the future. I mean, and the article has confirmed this sufficiently, the core competence of the established car manufacturers is not software. I don't trust the newcomers like Tesla or the Chinese manufacturers for the time being. In my opinion, the same standards should apply to software in motor vehicles as in the aviation industry. And there c…
Just buy a car from the people, who dedicate their career/lives to making cars and have done so for decades. You aren't smarter then them. Your "serious thoughts" and "opinion" about what standards should apply are not yours to worry about.
> Just buy a car from the people, who dedicate their career/lives to making cars and have done so for decades. You aren't smarter then them.
Is this then logic that gets airlines to buy from The Boeing "Are door plugs supposed to stay in?" Company?
Re: Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war
#77Embedded-systems programming is not taught, and no one is willing to pay for training. The result is that development is outsourced to entities that claim, falsely, to have the knowledge. Eventually the consequences of the fact that they do not have the knowledge surface in an undeniable manner, and the only way to cover is to make a great show of a fresh start. (This affects all industries, not just automotive, but…
ok but why tho??? I have a lot of interest in embedded system can someone tell me if there are any course that taught this??
I learned embedded in the school of hard knocks.
Re: Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war
#78Remove the LTE chip and all functionality related to ads, support wireless CarPlay and android auto, and use physical buttons. You’ll win every award in the industry.
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Re: Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war
#79So I have serious thoughts about driving “software defined vehicles” in the future. I mean, and the article has confirmed this sufficiently, the core competence of the established car manufacturers is not software. I don't trust the newcomers like Tesla or the Chinese manufacturers for the time being. In my opinion, the same standards should apply to software in motor vehicles as in the aviation industry. And there c…
BMW i3 is great for city/town if you’re OK with electric. Not 4x4, but minimal “assist”, just traction control. Internet remote stuff is optional but nice.
In the fully autonomous future the car I want to own and drive will still be my 6MT 911! :-)
If I want to be driven, I’ll just book a waymo.
Re: Car companies are in a billion-dollar software war
#80Why does your car need an internet connection? I don't use the built in maps since my phone has a map and a connection. what is the killer app of a connected car? businesses might want to watch their fleet but does anyone else care
> Why does your car need an internet connection?
It requires at least a basic cellular module for eCall in Europe since 2018, so car manufacturers use the already present hardware to provide more services. Maps and updates (live traffic view), internet hotspots for passengers (IIRC, Tesla does that one), entertainment that doesn't rely on a phone, firmware updates, feedback of driving data to insurances (yes, some insurances offer discounts in exchange for proving you "drive safely"), position data for leased/financed cars in case they need to be repo'd, synchronizing stuff like seat and mirror position across a fleet, remote pre-heating, "put packages in my trunk" access for parcel deliveries to thwart porch pirates, uploading data from real-world traffic situations to train AIs (again, Tesla does that one)...
There's quite the laundry list of nifty to nasty things that can be done with a connected car.