So this is the future-billionaires won't just sell us services, they'll trap us in entire ecosystems they control. I'd be more surprised if X doesn't eventually turn into one of them in recent future.
Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball
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#72Even if you 100% believe in your heart that Altman would never do anything negative with these scans that doesn't mean someone else won't if/when they get access to them. People may trusted 23andMe with their genetic data but now no one knows who will end up owning it and why the buyer believes buying the data is profitable. https://wydaily.com/latest/regional-national/2025/05/08/23an...
It's kind of different in that with 23andMe they know your name and genetic data. With Worldcoin you don't give your name and they just get a photo of your eyes.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
> These people do not know the consequences of what they are doing. They might have known the consequences, but money is money. I feel like for 99% of people there is a certain sum of money for which they will give into pretty much any kind of data collection. Even I'd give into it if they gave me enough . The bar is just higher, but there does exist a certain $X for which I would give in as well.
How much would you want for your genome?
I haven't thought about an exact number, but I'd probably cave in for $20M.
I'd finally be able to afford a house, never have to work for a toxic company again in my life, and could afford various preventative medical care without relying on insurance.
Basically, "life-changing" money.
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#74Even if you 100% believe in your heart that Altman would never do anything negative with these scans that doesn't mean someone else won't if/when they get access to them. People may trusted 23andMe with their genetic data but now no one knows who will end up owning it and why the buyer believes buying the data is profitable. https://wydaily.com/latest/regional-national/2025/05/08/23an...
When talking about government surveillance, people often ask some version of 'well, if you're not doing anything wrong, what are you afraid of?'. My response is always, 'It's not that I don't trust our current government, I don't trust all future governments that come after this one'. I hope given the recent events of having some hired thugs rifle through government databases (including the OPM, which supposedly has…
I see no reason to trust the current government, nor any of the previous ones in my lifetime.
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#75Biometric data is valuable. Assuming that Musk's DOGE crew copied data obtained from US gov agencies, they may have also obtained biometric data of EU citizens. At least some countries have shared citizens' fingerprints with the US. Not just Visa Waiver Program applicants' but as I understand, previous government of Poland made a deal to share all citizens' fingerprints. And these are collected from anyone renewing t…
> previous government of Poland made a deal to share all citizens' fingerprints This piqued my interest, but I couldn't find anything. Do you know where I could find more information about it?
Sadly, I'm unable to find specific documents confirming it. AFAIK, Poland agreed to biometric data sharing with the US Office of Biometric Identity Management in exchange for loosening travel requirements. That said, US seems to be pushing[0] for more such agreements.
[0] https://www.statewatch.org/news/2023/august/eu-and-usa-ploug...
Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball
#76Even if you 100% believe in your heart that Altman would never do anything negative with these scans that doesn't mean someone else won't if/when they get access to them. People may trusted 23andMe with their genetic data but now no one knows who will end up owning it and why the buyer believes buying the data is profitable. https://wydaily.com/latest/regional-national/2025/05/08/23an...
It's kind of different in that with 23andMe they know your name and genetic data. With Worldcoin you don't give your name and they just get a photo of your eyes.
> they just get a photo of your eyes.
this comes across as if you are attempting to downplay the importance of this biometric data which is weird considering Altman is paying to get access to just a photo of your eyes.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everyone deserves food and political freedom in my opinion. We could probably do it too if we actually tried.
I agree! I think what rubbed me was the idea that the people taking Altman’s deal “do not know the consequences of what they are doing.” Down that road lies a paternalistic flavor of charity, a spirit of “protecting them from themselves.” And that seems to evoke the idea that poor is the same as ignorant. That there’s only one correct value to assign to your biometric data, and anyone who values theirs differently mu…
> We can advocate for political freedom, material security, and just societies—and probably get better results—if we don’t model people as helpless or uninformed or without agency just because they’re in a socially vulnerable position.
Sam Altman has a far greater capacity for agency than an impoverished Filipino signing away his biometric data for the price of a Domino’s pizza.
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#78I did the worldcoin scan thing a couple of years ago and it's all quite jolly. The article is a bit scaremongering. Re: >Simply put, the premise is this: scan your eyeball, get a biometric tag, verify yourself, buy our apps (and cryptocurrency). ... Minority Report style technology it's not really like that. They take a photo of your eye to check you are a new person and not someone who has an account already, then g…
> I recommend it to anyone who's curious / positive about new tech.
What does this have to do with curiosity or new-tech positivity? Nothing.
Give biometric data, get fluctuating ~$300. You did nothing else than sell something you have. I'm not judging.
Re: Sam Altman Wants Your Eyeball
#79I did the worldcoin scan thing a couple of years ago and it's all quite jolly. The article is a bit scaremongering. Re: >Simply put, the premise is this: scan your eyeball, get a biometric tag, verify yourself, buy our apps (and cryptocurrency). ... Minority Report style technology it's not really like that. They take a photo of your eye to check you are a new person and not someone who has an account already, then g…
I would ask that you elaborate a little more. I am an example of one. I like LLMs, but I cringe internally and externally at times at some of the things people seem to want to use them for ( and I just saw a presentation that basically said the equivalent of "add AI here, happy sunshine leaves there". And how? Magic. Nobody knows. ). I like crypto, but it is impossible to not see million rugpulls, scams and so on out there. I like technology, but I am very, very aware of the issues with basic human nature.
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#80They did that here in the Phillipines and they exploit the poor. They give money for people to allow them to scan their eyes. These people do not know the consequences of what they are doing.
What are the consequences?
The consequence is that you can have an actual fair global economy and better wealth distribution