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From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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Re: From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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Post by ecnahc515 »

williamdclt wrote: post #68
ryancnelson wrote: post #43

i love this. A startup I was at during early COVID times got acquired into Hewlett Packard Enterprise, so we all became HPE employees with HPE addresses. There was a similar form there to request "ryancnelson"@hpe, etc... One of my co-workers got cute and asked for "root@hpe.com" .... And boy, there's a lot of cron jobs running at HP.

I’m confused why cron jobs would be sending emails to root@hpe.com?

Cronjobs often run as root. If the host has is configured to send emails when a cronjob is completed it will default to sending it to user@domain where the user is the user the cronjob runs as, and the domain is what was configured in the cron configuration.

Re: From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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Post by sph »

williamdclt wrote: post #68
ryancnelson wrote: post #43

i love this. A startup I was at during early COVID times got acquired into Hewlett Packard Enterprise, so we all became HPE employees with HPE addresses. There was a similar form there to request "ryancnelson"@hpe, etc... One of my co-workers got cute and asked for "root@hpe.com" .... And boy, there's a lot of cron jobs running at HP.

I’m confused why cron jobs would be sending emails to root@hpe.com?

IIRC cron writes stdout to the local mail spool (@localhost). If the server is configured correctly, with an SMTP service for the domain, these emails are basically forwarded to @

In practice, I have never seen a Linux server with an actual SMTP server configured correctly in 20 years, so the worst that usually happens is that cronjobs never actually leave the machine. You used to get a mail notification when you logged in if cron had written something, but that doesn’t happen anymore on recent distros.

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Post by phillco »

mattl wrote: post #8

Steve Hayman, long time NeXT/Apple employee who just retired last week from Apple having started in 1993 with NeXT. His WebObjects demo from 2001 is one of the most entertaining tech demos I've ever seen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfWnDJtUyrw

The idea of any official Apple presentation today beginning with a humorous rendition of _God Save the Queen_ is so absurd I can't help but smile at what we've lost.

Re: From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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Post by voidspark »

mattl wrote: post #44
madeofpalk wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dude wrote a small anecdote on their blog and this is your response?

Yeah, a small anecdote on their blog after 34 years on the job. Does not seem like worship at all.

It is respect, not worship.

Re: From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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Post by airstrike »

Aurornis wrote: post #4

> Hi - I'm new here. I did something dumb and > set up a mail alias so that steve@next.com > would go to me. > This was a bad idea, I'm sorry. > I've changed it to steve@next.com goes to you, > not to me. I think that makes more sense. > My apologies. > Signed, new guy. What a great example of how to own a mistake, apologize, communicate, and get it fixed. I can think of so many past situations with coworkers that wo…

It really is the perfect message. It's effective, efficient, impactful and human at the same time. No wonder they've had such a long tenure at Apple.

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Post by MagerValp »

mattl wrote: post #8

Steve Hayman, long time NeXT/Apple employee who just retired last week from Apple having started in 1993 with NeXT. His WebObjects demo from 2001 is one of the most entertaining tech demos I've ever seen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfWnDJtUyrw

Steve is easily the most entertaining conference speaker I’ve had the pleasure to attend in person. He was a regular at MacSysAdmin for many years, and always in the Friday afternoon slot when you need a jolt of energy. Good times.

Re: From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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Post by jonathanlydall »

mlyle wrote: post #18
AIorNot wrote: post #10

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Hey, running into someone who is exceptional and having a fun story to tell about it is reasonable and doesn't deserve this negative energy. That time I ran into Larry Bird, or just missed having dinner with Douglas Adams, or the time I talked to Jonny Kim-- they're little markers of time in my existence. I know they're not gods, and I've done pretty cool things myself, but I'm still in awe of the cool stuff they've…

I have a famous person anecdote I enjoy telling.

More than 20 years ago now, my brother (who was maybe 9) had his friend over for lunch and the night before my brother had spent the night at his house.

So my mother asks what they got up to, and the friend says they were playing water pistol fights with his sister’s boyfriend, “Wa-kin”, who was visiting.

We then ask what the boyfriend does, and he responds that he’s an actor. (Just be aware now that we live in Johannesburg, South Africa.)

So we say, cool, has he acted in anything we might know?

And friend says something like “Oh, lots of movies, Gladiator, Signs, others…”.

At which point I remember thinking, “no way!” and “so that’s how Joaquin is pronounced” (as I’d only ever seen it written).

Turns out the friend’s sister was a model living in New York which explained the situation I would never have guessed.

Re: From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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Post by caseyy »

kccqzy wrote: post #52
caseyy wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone’s super concerned about security and control, but the best places I worked in were more concerned with freedom. Yes, be savvy about security, protect key assets, but “permissions oversight” about claiming an alias seems excessive. You’ll have 1,000x more headaches and burned operational cash getting everyone to approve everyone else’s every step than handling one security incident in a decade. And even with…

> but the best places I worked in were more concerned with freedom Sure. But if that's the case why do you even have individual email? Make everything a group email and group IM. Not allowed to send messages to a specific person; can only send messages to everyone. What would happen? Can you see the flaw in this logic? Email isn't only for discussing work projects. It needs to be private for discussions involving HR,…

Steve Jobs’s email was not taken away. A guy was allowed to register an alias self-service style. Everyone could reach Jobs on his email.
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