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Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

mooreds wrote: post #54

On several of Tyler Cowen's recent podcasts, he has said essentially "there are really only two countries that have AI, China and the USA. Does this mean that other countries (like Peru) won't really have a functioning, powerful government when AI runs everything". See https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/chris-dixon/ > As you know, not many countries have serious AI companies, and even those in Europe may or…

> when AI runs everything

You can't be seriously considering fancy autocomplete word guessers are replacing governments when Musk can't even get Grok to stop telling Twitter users what a moron he is.

Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by snihalani »

Trasmatta wrote: post #36
kiernanmcgowan wrote: post #8

> We want to help these countries, and in the process, spread democratic AI I'm reading this in the same voice as Helldivers 2 "managed democracy"

They used the word "democratic" 8 times in that post. I'm not sure that word means what they think it means.

I think it means they are blinking twice in front of their republic friends. Fortunately, no one is going to save them

Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by grafmax »

They are claiming that free markets are an expression of democratic principles.

Free markets concentrate wealth and power.

Concentration of wealth and power is antithetical to democracy.

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Post by whaleofatw2022 »

hayst4ck wrote: post #69
slg wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the most shocking aspects of this era of history is the number of people who not only end up accidentally resembling or aligning with the bad guys of our satire and dystopian fiction, but how many of them seem to be actively and intentionally pursuing that path. It's the Torment Nexus all the way down.

That's because there are no consequences for bad behavior, only reward. Game theory dictates that if bad behavior is a winning strategy it will be adopted and propagate until it is the dominant strategy. The only way it stops becoming a winning strategy is if we provide consequences, but that requires taking personal responsibility for the state of the world, which was a core American value, but doesn't seem to be an…

I will dare say, it's a question of what happens to Mario's brother. Jury nullification in that is the best message that could be sent to the populace.

Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by pixl97 »

slg wrote: post #60
kiernanmcgowan wrote: post #8

> We want to help these countries, and in the process, spread democratic AI I'm reading this in the same voice as Helldivers 2 "managed democracy"

One of the most shocking aspects of this era of history is the number of people who not only end up accidentally resembling or aligning with the bad guys of our satire and dystopian fiction, but how many of them seem to be actively and intentionally pursuing that path. It's the Torment Nexus all the way down.

>end up accidentally resembling or aligning with the bad guys of our satire and dystopian fiction

Quite often this dystopian 'fiction' is just a biography with the names and place rewritten. A scary number of people are rather anti-human.

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Post by simonw »

mooreds wrote: post #54

On several of Tyler Cowen's recent podcasts, he has said essentially "there are really only two countries that have AI, China and the USA. Does this mean that other countries (like Peru) won't really have a functioning, powerful government when AI runs everything". See https://conversationswithtyler.com/episodes/chris-dixon/ > As you know, not many countries have serious AI companies, and even those in Europe may or…

Mistral mean France (and through it Europe) do have at least one very solid contender.

Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by dbalatero »

mrcwinn wrote: post #67
dbalatero wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should that be a requirement? Do you have anything positive to say?

It’s not a requirement. If it’s just the culture of HN to dunk on certain companies or products, then it is. This place doesn’t belong to me any more than it belongs to you. I am hopeful though that we could encourage more diversity of opinion here. Otherwise it’s exhausting. And yes, I do, and it’s shared in a different comment. Search if you care to read it.

Interesting, I've had the opposite feeling of AI being super hyped throughout the industry, with tons of positivity and not a whole lot of reflection or criticism.

Re: OpenAI for Countries

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Post by mminer237 »

whaleofatw2022 wrote: post #74
hayst4ck wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because there are no consequences for bad behavior, only reward. Game theory dictates that if bad behavior is a winning strategy it will be adopted and propagate until it is the dominant strategy. The only way it stops becoming a winning strategy is if we provide consequences, but that requires taking personal responsibility for the state of the world, which was a core American value, but doesn't seem to be an…

I will dare say, it's a question of what happens to Mario's brother. Jury nullification in that is the best message that could be sent to the populace.

I'm pretty sure giving everyone the belief that they can murder with impunity as long as the victim is undesirable enough would be the absolute worst thing that could happen right now.
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