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iOS Kindle app now has a ‘get book’ button after changes to App Store rules

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Re: iOS Kindle app now has a ‘get book’ button after changes to App Store rules

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Post by redczar »

makeitdouble wrote: post #53
wmf wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple will change the rules back in seconds if the court decision is stayed. Literally billions are at stake here.

They might, but they'll have lost the "it's for consumer's good" battle through and through. 4 years ago some people were still swallowing the security or privacy argument, and users didn't understand what they were missing. This time any of these facades will be broken to death.

I buy the security and privacy argument. I don’t want to deal with anyone other than Apple for refunds, cancellations, etc. I don’t trust anyone else to make these things easy.

Re: iOS Kindle app now has a ‘get book’ button after changes to App Store rules

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Post by mrkpdl »

chaosbolt wrote: post #63
paxys wrote: post #59

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Sure, but customers aren't going to be defending their decision after that like they always do.

Apple is a status brand, customers will still defend their decisions even if they found out that Tim Cook is a real life Sith lord or something of that magnitude.

This is a misconception. For most Apple users it isn’t about status, it’s just the brand they use because they like the products and the way they work together. That doesn’t mean they don’t wish they were better in many ways (including this one).

Re: iOS Kindle app now has a ‘get book’ button after changes to App Store rules

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

redczar wrote: post #71
makeitdouble wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They might, but they'll have lost the "it's for consumer's good" battle through and through. 4 years ago some people were still swallowing the security or privacy argument, and users didn't understand what they were missing. This time any of these facades will be broken to death.

I buy the security and privacy argument. I don’t want to deal with anyone other than Apple for refunds, cancellations, etc. I don’t trust anyone else to make these things easy.

Then you can happily tell Apple to fix it. Apple already has a system for this called Apple Pay, and it’s royalty free on top of regular credit card networks.

If it’s about security and privacy only, demand the ability to check out in an app using Apple’s own payment platform. Watch Apple squirm.

As for the subscription convenience, I know how to make this even better. Let’s give Visa and Stripe a monopoly on all transactions, and then have them build a unified subscription portal. Awesomeness!

Re: iOS Kindle app now has a ‘get book’ button after changes to App Store rules

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Post by Workaccount2 »

paxys wrote: post #8

Smart that developers are quickly updating their apps while Apple is still appealing the decision. Once users get used to the added purchase options and cheaper pricing there's no going back, regardless of what the final ruling is.

The consumers are...not sharp.

They will blame the app developers for raising prices.

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Post by lurk2 »

wordofx wrote: post #25
lurk2 wrote: post #15

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> Money that paid for development of iPhone and iOS. iOS has gotten progressively worse every year since 2012. It may not be the worst idea to turn off the tap.

How is it worse? It’s better now for me than years ago.

Off the top of my head:

- Substantially poorer performance

- Keyboard is less accurate

- YouTube videos can’t be played on the lock screen without some tricks

- Apple Maps (it is basically at parity now, however).

- Translate feature doesn’t have a copy button

- The storage bug

- No option for manual cache clearing

- SMB protocol doesn’t work with Windows and doesn’t display error messages

- File transfers are substantially more complicated than they used to be because they want you to pay for iCloud (the workaround here is installing VLC which gives you a drag-and-drop folder you can use through iTunes)

- Multitasking (apps should shut down after some time spent idle, instead they have to be manually closed)

I haven’t used the most recent versions of iOS so I don’t know if some of these have been addressed.

Re: iOS Kindle app now has a ‘get book’ button after changes to App Store rules

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Post by redczar »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #73
redczar wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I buy the security and privacy argument. I don’t want to deal with anyone other than Apple for refunds, cancellations, etc. I don’t trust anyone else to make these things easy.

Then you can happily tell Apple to fix it. Apple already has a system for this called Apple Pay, and it’s royalty free on top of regular credit card networks. If it’s about security and privacy only, demand the ability to check out in an app using Apple’s own payment platform. Watch Apple squirm. As for the subscription convenience, I know how to make this even better. Let’s give Visa and Stripe a monopoly on all tra…

I don’t understand your points. If I buy things through the App store on iOS I know if there is a problem I can get relief very easily. I can easily cancel subscriptions without having to jump through a bunch of hoops. I prefer to keep things this way. You apparently don’t. As such we disagree.

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Post by blmarket »

sundaeofshock wrote: post #40
paxys wrote: post #8

Smart that developers are quickly updating their apps while Apple is still appealing the decision. Once users get used to the added purchase options and cheaper pricing there's no going back, regardless of what the final ruling is.

Why would a developer lower their prices? Most people are not aware that Apple takes a cut of all sales. Further, the app developers have already set their prices to maximize revenue. Also, in instances like Amazon, they have already set a cross-platform price that I suspect they won’t want to touch. Bottom line: I wouldn’t expect many discounts here.

Yeah, tariffs won't increase the price...

Re: iOS Kindle app now has a ‘get book’ button after changes to App Store rules

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Post by [deleted] »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #65
lilyball wrote: post #58

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That sounds like an awful user experience. There's no way I'm ever buying a mobile app that requires me to go enter my credit card into a website to pay for it. Cross-platform services can justify this sort of thing (because you're buying a subscription to the service across all platforms), but doing it for what otherwise would be a paid app purchase is incredibly user-hostile.

I think you’re in the minority there - users enter their information constantly for physical items. Nobody raises an eyebrow, let alone calls it hostile. Also, problem solved, just use Apple Pay on the checkout page. Ironic, but royalty free, and one-click to enable in Stripe.

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Post by tchalla »

redczar wrote: post #71
makeitdouble wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They might, but they'll have lost the "it's for consumer's good" battle through and through. 4 years ago some people were still swallowing the security or privacy argument, and users didn't understand what they were missing. This time any of these facades will be broken to death.

I buy the security and privacy argument. I don’t want to deal with anyone other than Apple for refunds, cancellations, etc. I don’t trust anyone else to make these things easy.

I feel you to a large disagree. That said Apple’s IAP has multiple issues

https://bsky.app/profile/gergely.pragmaticengineer.com/post/...

Re: iOS Kindle app now has a ‘get book’ button after changes to App Store rules

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Post by madeofpalk »

redczar wrote: post #71
makeitdouble wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They might, but they'll have lost the "it's for consumer's good" battle through and through. 4 years ago some people were still swallowing the security or privacy argument, and users didn't understand what they were missing. This time any of these facades will be broken to death.

I buy the security and privacy argument. I don’t want to deal with anyone other than Apple for refunds, cancellations, etc. I don’t trust anyone else to make these things easy.

It would be great if the market could figure out this.
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