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Re: RIP Skype

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I sometimes use Skype in a web browser on Linux. Will this migration to Teams work in that as well? The instructions in the article say "Download Teams on your device" so that makes it sound like no...

Thankfully you can use teams in a web browser. I use it in Safari and will never install anything.

It still sucks though, but it's just another website that suck.

Re: RIP Skype

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At its height Skype made its money in surprising ways. There was a margin on Skype credits, which paid for calls into the regular phone system. But there was much more money in brand licensing. Time was you could buy not just "Skype certified" headsets, cameras, but even non-telephony gear like USB thumb drives. SanDisk carried those for years and I presume they out-sold the alternatives enough to be worth the licens…

> But the brand had a lot of trust. Not for me. I always regarded it as one giant security hole in an era when Windows was riddled with them.

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Re: RIP Skype

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RIP my 50 Euros that they didn't want to re-imburse. "Just use Teams, your money will be there" ... hmmm, no thanks.

$120 here. I think they are trying to encourage people to utilize license key generators and related work-arounds for their products.

Re: RIP Skype

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Everyone I know who uses Teams does not like it. Is that selection bias based on my personal network of technically savvy peers and professionals, or is it founded in a broader experience? More importantly, does Microsoft really believe this is a winning product? Are they that out of touch with their customer base?

Accidental Tech Podcast episode 581 [1] had a great conversation about the reason why Teams is winning: Microsoft was using their dominant position in office applications to win market share. Specifically, they would offer Teams for free in a bundle with Office (which basically every company buys anyway). Every manager could strike Slack from their expenses, replace it with Teams and claim great success. Microsoft ha…

This was obvious, at least to me. MSFT has always offered Teams as a "free" add-on to O365 licenses. Google does the same with Meet and Workspace licenses.

It's a real shame, given that Zoom is leagues better than both solutions. But "free" is free :(

Re: RIP Skype

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Teams as a Zoom competitor is fine. It works perfectly well as video calling / conferencing software. Teams as a Slack competitor is abysmal. Absolutely unusable for anything other than the most basic communication needs.

I think this is exactly why it's getting all the hate. People being forced to migrate from Slack to Teams. Not only do they lose years of archives, but the UX and features are a huge downgrade for such an essential tool. If it was zoom -> teams, i don't think anyone would care so much.

zoom actually has a chat service that might be worse than teams, too

Re: RIP Skype

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Everyone I know who uses Teams does not like it. Is that selection bias based on my personal network of technically savvy peers and professionals, or is it founded in a broader experience? More importantly, does Microsoft really believe this is a winning product? Are they that out of touch with their customer base?

I’ve never met anyone who chose to use Teams. My organization forces me to use it. I don’t like it, but to its credit, it is better than “Skype for business.” It’s strange to me how companies take these huge messaging brands and then just burn them down (Skype, MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, Google’s chatbominations, even AIM). As a user, they don’t fizzle out due to user disinterest, it’s always the owner just sort…

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Re: RIP Skype

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Google Voice is amazing, but requires a US phone number to set up.

I wonder if an American friend could set it up for me. My gmail mailbox but their US phone number. (Thanks for the recommendation!)

It should, but they've recently been somewhat picky about which phone numbers they accept for the initial setup.

Once you get it, you don't need access to that US number afterwards – very useful when traveling; everything just works via VoIP, including texting, which is a lifesaver for 2FA when traveling without US roaming.

Of course, it's a Google service, so expect it to be discontinued without warning at the exact moment you've totally integrated it into your daily life.

Re: RIP Skype

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I sometimes use Skype in a web browser on Linux. Will this migration to Teams work in that as well? The instructions in the article say "Download Teams on your device" so that makes it sound like no...

Strangely, using Teams in a browser (Firefox in my case) works far better than trying to install Teams on Linux (Ubuntu in my case). The last time I tried to install Teams, it would just show a blank rectangle and refuse to do anything else.

Re: RIP Skype

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What are people replacing Skype with, for calls to international phones (cell, landline)? That’s the only thing we used it for (calling relatives who for reasons, are unable to get an iPad and use FaceTime like normal people). We’ve been struggling to find a reasonable replacement that doesn’t look sketchy. It also doesn’t need to be free, we used a Skype subscription so we are ok to pay a reasonable fee. Viber and R…

Microsoft has a product already: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-teams/microsoft-te...
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