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Irish privacy watchdog hits TikTok with €530M fine over data transfers to China

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Re: Irish privacy watchdog hits TikTok with €530M fine over data transfers to China

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Post by s_dev »

SilverBirch wrote: post #40

Two things I wonder about: first are these fines actually going to happen or is the sort of thing where it gets appealed indefinitely. And second, where do the fines go? It sounds a lot like since Ireland is where Tiktok is getting fined the fines go to the Irish government which would seem crazy. The fines are assessed in the context of the full EU, but only Ireland gets the revenue? This is broken.

https://www.enforcementtracker.com/

Re: Irish privacy watchdog hits TikTok with €530M fine over data transfers to China

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Post by Cribbin »

faraggi wrote: post #69
codetrotter wrote: post #8

Є in the title of the HN submission is not the Euro symbol. € is.

Also, the € symbol is a suffix to amounts, not a prefix like $.

That actually varies by country. In Ireland it is used as a prefix

Re: Irish privacy watchdog hits TikTok with €530M fine over data transfers to China

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Post by secondcoming »

faraggi wrote: post #69
codetrotter wrote: post #8

Є in the title of the HN submission is not the Euro symbol. € is.

Also, the € symbol is a suffix to amounts, not a prefix like $.

Only in some countries. The position of the currency symbol is a locale thing

Re: Irish privacy watchdog hits TikTok with €530M fine over data transfers to China

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Post by [deleted] »

AlchemistCamp wrote: post #11
prof-dr-ir wrote: post #7

'massive' -- by which standards? It is high time we got used to companies being fined a reasonable fraction of their revenue. And TikTok's global revenue last year alone was estimated at $20 billion to $26 billion [1]. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/technology/tiktok-ban-byt...

What bearing does their global revenue have on what Ireland has any jurisdiction to fine them? I'm not a fan or user of TikTok, but what they earn on other continents is none of Ireland's business.

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Re: Irish privacy watchdog hits TikTok with €530M fine over data transfers to China

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Post by switch007 »

s_dev wrote: post #71
SilverBirch wrote: post #40

Two things I wonder about: first are these fines actually going to happen or is the sort of thing where it gets appealed indefinitely. And second, where do the fines go? It sounds a lot like since Ireland is where Tiktok is getting fined the fines go to the Irish government which would seem crazy. The fines are assessed in the context of the full EU, but only Ireland gets the revenue? This is broken.

https://www.enforcementtracker.com/

Does that confirm that a fine payment was made?

Re: Irish privacy watchdog hits TikTok with €530M fine over data transfers to China

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Post by jtvjan »

faraggi wrote: post #69
codetrotter wrote: post #8

Є in the title of the HN submission is not the Euro symbol. € is.

Also, the € symbol is a suffix to amounts, not a prefix like $.

I think that convention depends on the language, not the currency.

For example, in German it's usually written postfix, but in Dutch it's usually prefix.

Re: Irish privacy watchdog hits TikTok with €530M fine over data transfers to China

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Post by nextworddev »

lukan wrote: post #10
udev4096 wrote: post #4

Whoever cares about privacy would certainly stay away from TokTok. This is just absurd. Ban the app already

"Ban the app already" And FB, Insta, Google, Youtube, ..? The only difference with TikTok is that it is based in china.

And that’s a very big difference

Re: Irish privacy watchdog hits TikTok with €530M fine over data transfers to China

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Post by aurareturn »

master-lincoln wrote: post #67
surgical_fire wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> China is an expansionist dictatorship. It would be ridiculous to suggest it is more trustworthy than the US. China never threatened to annex portions of EU countries, unlike the US. If anything, China is definitely more reliable, as its only disputes with EU are on trade, not anything ideological or that threatens the integrity of each party.

EU has issues with human rights violations regularly happening in China. China has even sanctioned European politicians voicing critique. Only recently some of those sanctions were lifted by China so they can negotiate trade agreements with the EU. China might be more reliable than the US right now, but ideologically they are further away from the EU than the US I think.

  EU has issues with human rights violations regularly happening in China. China has even sanctioned European politicians voicing critique.
Does China sanction France for its role in suppressing parts of Africa?[0] In the video comments, a lot of French citizens never even heard about it. That tells you that the French government is also hiding a ton of atrocities it's committing to its citizens, right?

Why is the EU judging when they still violate human rights themselves?

I think when Europeans criticize China for not having the same values as them, they should learn some history about how European powers tried to tear China apart and take advantage of it. Start with the photo of Austria-Hungary, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the United States and the United Kingdom forces inside the Forbidden City.[1]

Perhaps China not having the same values of European powers is a good thing in terms of overall peace?

I would love to hear from EU citizens on why they should be the judge of all human moral values when their countries have arguably done more collectively to disturb the peace of others in the last 300 years than any country in Asia.

[0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiD24uEvY1U

[1]https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/50adfa2ae4b0cc...

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