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Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages

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Re: Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages

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Post by mattl »

onionisafruit wrote: post #70
pokstad wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s like in the old days when you needed to get married and grabbed a random nearby person to be the witness.

I doubt that’s happened more than twice in the history of marriage

It's happened more than once to me!

Re: Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages

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Post by hackernewds »

bb88 wrote: post #66
Titan2189 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TeleMessage is an Israeli software company based in Petah Tikva, Israel. Founded in 1999 by Guy Levit and Gil Shapira, it provides secure enterprise messaging, mobile communications archiving and high-volume text messaging services. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeleMessage

Even though Israel is our "Ally" -- we really shouldn't trust a foreign company with our sensitive messaging. If you're in the government, you should treat Hegseth and anyone who uses Signal and TMSIGNL as compromised.

trust me that's a feature not a bug

Re: Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages

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Post by photonthug »

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #33

>>> overnment agencies have paid for versions of encrypted messaging apps that also have archive abilities before. In 2021, Customs and Border Protection (CBP) paid encrypted app company Wickr $700,000. This seems like a perfect use case to support Signal. Have large, corporate or govt entities, pay for a custom fork of the app, built by the app developers themselves. Why is telemessage getting the money ? Does the S…

Katherine Maher, the CEO of NPR, chairs the board of the Signal Foundation.

Re: Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages

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Post by IgorPartola »

cge wrote: post #39
cwillu wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> breaking the E2E encryption E2E doesn't mean what I think you think it means; specifically, it has nothing to do with what the intended recipient (or their software) does with the message.

That very much depends on who is running the archive system, and how it is implemented. But more generally, your point is why I mentioned "unless the archive is considered an end and the connection to it is secure."

The point of E2E is only to make sure that Alice is talking to Bob and nobody else can pretend to be either of them or eavesdrop. There is no reason whatsoever to include where else the message may be sent, encrypted or not.

Consider E2E protected email service. You send me the final designs over this encrypted channel. Then I put the designs onto a USB drive and give them to my printer to print. Then I hang them as billboards all over town. This is a valid use case for E2E. Yet the contents of the message ends up visible from the freeway.

You are confusing Snapchat mechanics for encryption.

Re: Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages

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Post by MaxPock »

Wouldn’t it be more effective for the government to develop a highly secure communication app, known only to individuals in top-level positions? This app would be discreetly installed upon appointment to a senior government role and automatically removed upon departure from office.

Re: Mike Waltz Accidentally Reveals App Govt Uses to Archive Signal Messages

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Post by kristjansson »

MaxPock wrote: post #76

Wouldn’t it be more effective for the government to develop a highly secure communication app, known only to individuals in top-level positions? This app would be discreetly installed upon appointment to a senior government role and automatically removed upon departure from office.

That's ... that's the communication network they're avoiding? Because the problem is not _which_ app, it's that it's _an_ app, on standard hardware, on the public internet?
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