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Watching o3 guess a photo's location is surreal, dystopian and entertaining

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Re: Watching o3 guess a photo's location is surreal, dystopian and entertaining

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Why is it dystopian? It's a nice utility. The tool is just intelligence. Intelligence itself is not dystopian or utopian. It's what you use it for that makes it so.

Those who say it is "utopian" are also okay with: "If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear". It is dystopian.

The tool is just intelligence. Intelligence itself is not dystopian or utopian. It's what you use it for that makes it so.

If you don't want to post a photo, then don't post a photo.

Re: Watching o3 guess a photo's location is surreal, dystopian and entertaining

#72
post #55

This tool just makes it easier for weirdos to achieve their goals at stalking women and kids. Crazy that this is even allowed. Who the hell needs to know the precise location of a picture, besides law enforcement? A rough location is most of the time sufficient. Like a region, a state, or a landscape (e.g., when you see the Bing background pictures, it's nice to see where they were taken). This tool will give a boost…

I can't believe such a comment is posted now in 2025. Everyone had moved on from that kind of thing at least a decade ago. Or are there some parts of the Internet where this would be new?

Re: Watching o3 guess a photo's location is surreal, dystopian and entertaining

#73
post #54

I just tossed a group photo w/ some cherry blossom in the background, and GPT immediately answered it's taken in Japan. Yes, I'm very very very scared. /s

Finding a photo that this doesn't work on is trivially easy.

Re: Watching o3 guess a photo's location is surreal, dystopian and entertaining

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I’m sure there are areas where the location guessing can be scary accurate, like the article managed to guess the exact town as its backup guess. But seeing the chain of thought, I’m confident there are many areas that it will be far less precise. Show it a picture of a trailer park somewhere in Kansas (exclude any signs with the trailer park name and location) and I’ll bet the model only manages to guess the state c…

you never know.. LLM could go full sherlock holmes. Based on the type of grass and the direction of the wind. The type of wood work used. There could be millions of factors that it could factor in and then guess it to a t.

> Based on the type of grass and the direction of the wind.

There was a scene in High Potential (murder-of-the-week sleuth savant show) where a crime was solved by (in part) the direction the wind was blowing in a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1ZOzck4bBI

Re: Watching o3 guess a photo's location is surreal, dystopian and entertaining

#75

Why is it dystopian? It's a nice utility. The tool is just intelligence. Intelligence itself is not dystopian or utopian. It's what you use it for that makes it so.

I agree with you. The opposite opinion sounds psychotic and paranoid to me.

You've definitely never had a conversation with someone who's escaped an abusive relationship then.

Re: Watching o3 guess a photo's location is surreal, dystopian and entertaining

#76
post #61
post #25

I added a section just now with something I had missed: o3 DOES have a loose model of your location fed into it, which I believe is intended to support the new search feature (so it can run local searches). The thinking summary it showed me did not reference that information, but it's still very possible that it used that in its deliberations. I ran two extra example queries for photographs I've taken thousands of mi…

From the addition: > (EXIF stripped via screenshotting) Just a note, it is not necessary to "screenshot" to remove EXIF data. There are numerous tools that allow editing/removal of EXIF data (e.g., exiv2: https://exiv2.org/ , exiftool: https://exiftool.org/ , or even jpegtran with the "-copy none" option https://linux.die.net/man/1/jpegtran ). Using a screenshot to strip EXIF produces a reduced quality image (scaled…

True, but on Mac, a phone, and Windows I can take a screenshot and paste it into my destination app in a couple seconds with a few keystrokes. Thats why screenshotting is the go-to when you don’t mind cropping the target a little.

Re: Watching o3 guess a photo's location is surreal, dystopian and entertaining

#77
post #55

This tool just makes it easier for weirdos to achieve their goals at stalking women and kids. Crazy that this is even allowed. Who the hell needs to know the precise location of a picture, besides law enforcement? A rough location is most of the time sufficient. Like a region, a state, or a landscape (e.g., when you see the Bing background pictures, it's nice to see where they were taken). This tool will give a boost…

Will someone please think of the women and children?

Re: Watching o3 guess a photo's location is surreal, dystopian and entertaining

#79
post #55

This tool just makes it easier for weirdos to achieve their goals at stalking women and kids. Crazy that this is even allowed. Who the hell needs to know the precise location of a picture, besides law enforcement? A rough location is most of the time sufficient. Like a region, a state, or a landscape (e.g., when you see the Bing background pictures, it's nice to see where they were taken). This tool will give a boost…

This is pure luddism. A human could have done the exact same thing. I’ll also point out that in this case the most confident guess was 200 miles off and the second correct guess was only down to the city level. Not remotely what anyone would consider precise.

The fact that it got it wrong was one of the reasons I picked that example: it's much more interesting that way.

If you feed it a photo with a clear landmark it will get the location exactly right.

If you feed it a photo that's a close up of a brick wall it won't have a chance.

What's interesting is how well it can do on this range of tasks. If you don't think that's at least interesting I'm not sure what I can do for you.

Re: Watching o3 guess a photo's location is surreal, dystopian and entertaining

#80
post #54

I just tossed a group photo w/ some cherry blossom in the background, and GPT immediately answered it's taken in Japan. Yes, I'm very very very scared. /s

I'm curious how many cues it's using from profiling people in that guess.

A photo of people with cherry blossoms could be in many places, but if the majority of the people in the photo happen to be Japanese (and I'm curious how good LLMs are at determining the ethnicity of people now, and also curious if they would try to guess this if asked), it might guess Japan even if the cherry blossoms were in, say, Vancouver.

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