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OpenAI Codex CLI: Lightweight coding agent that runs in your terminal

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Re: OpenAI Codex CLI: Lightweight coding agent that runs in your terminal

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There's a lot of tools now with a similar feature set. IMO, the main value prop an official OpenAI client could provide would be to share ChatGPT's free tier vs. requiring an API key. They probably couldn't open-source it then, but it'd still be more valuable to me than the alternatives.

Coding agents use extreme numbers of tokens, you’d be getting rate limited effectively immediately. A typical small-medium PR with Claude Code for me is ~$10-15 of API credits.

Exactly. Just like Michelin the tire company created Michelin star restaurants list to make people drive and use more tires

Re: OpenAI Codex CLI: Lightweight coding agent that runs in your terminal

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post #68

Sorry for being a grumpy old man, but I don't have npm on my machine and I never will. It's a bit frustrating to see more and more CLI tools depending on it.

I asked the same question for Anthropic's version of this. Why is all of this in JS?

Re: OpenAI Codex CLI: Lightweight coding agent that runs in your terminal

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I tried one task head-to-head with Codex o4-mini vs Claude Code: writing documentation for a tricky area of a medium-sized codebase.

Claude Code did great and wrote pretty decent docs.

Codex didn't do well. It hallucinated a bunch of stuff that wasn't in the code, and completely misrepresented the architecture - it started talking about server backends and REST APIs in an app that doesn't have any of that.

I'm curious what went so wrong - feels like possibly an issue with loading in the right context and attending to it correctly? That seems like an area that Claude Code has really optimized for.

I have high hopes for o3 and o4-mini as models so I hope that other tests show better results! Also curious to see how Cursor etc. incorporate o3.

Re: OpenAI Codex CLI: Lightweight coding agent that runs in your terminal

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post #68

Sorry for being a grumpy old man, but I don't have npm on my machine and I never will. It's a bit frustrating to see more and more CLI tools depending on it.

What package managers do you use, and what does npm do differently that makes you unwilling to use it?

Re: OpenAI Codex CLI: Lightweight coding agent that runs in your terminal

#76
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not as much as https://asciinema.org/ - when you can use that...

True, but embedding a gif is way easier than using a javascript thing which might not be allowed in most places.

Browsers just need to support already.

It should behave exactly like a GIF, loop by default, and be usable for emojis and everything.

There is absolutely ZERO reason we should be stuck to 256 colors for things like cat videos used as chat stickers. We have had 24-bit displays for ages.

Re: OpenAI Codex CLI: Lightweight coding agent that runs in your terminal

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Fingers crossed for this to work well! Claude Code is pretty excellent. I’m actually legitimately surprised how good it is, since other coding agents I’ve used before have mostly been a letdown, which made me only use Claude in direct change prompting with Zed (“implement xyz here”, “rewrite this function with abc”, etc), so very hands-on. So I’ve went into trying out Claude Code rather pessimistically, and now I’m u…

Claude Code has a closed license https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/blob/main/LICENSE....

There is fork named Anon Kode https://github.com/dnakov/anon-kode which can use more models and non-Anthropic ones. But the license is unclear for it.

It's interesting to see codex to be Apache License. Maybe somebody extends it to be usable with competing models.

Re: OpenAI Codex CLI: Lightweight coding agent that runs in your terminal

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post #23

Apologies for the HN rule breaking of discussing the comments in the comments, but the voting behavior in this thread is fascinating to me. It seems like this is super controversial and I'm not sure why. The top comments have a negative score right now, which I've actually never seen. And also it's a top post with only 15 comments, which is odd. All so fascinating how outside the norm OpenAI is.

People are getting fed up with hijacking to promote a competing business or side project.

Hey, I tried to solve that by building an upvote bot for the legit comments! Check out my GitHub!

/s

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