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JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by lolinder »

pdpi wrote: post #52
blibble wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you can read this as no-one was buying the addon they'll eat the cost for a year or two, then bump up the subscription price to pay for it

I honestly doubt that’s the plan. They’ve bumped up the price once in all the years I’ve been subscribed to the All Tools pack. When they did that, they gave existing subscribers the option to buy two years’ subscription at the old price.

Yeah, JetBrains has so far been incredibly good to their users, and it sure seems like they know that that has been their primary competitive advantage in a landscape dominated by free editors. Hopefully that calculation stays the same in the AI world.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by mgkimsal »

Separate note...

I don't know when "AI Pro" became bundled with the "all products pack" but I don't think it was there last year. I've been paying for it separately for a bit now, but a couple days ago I noticed 2 licenses showing up in the 'AI Assistant' tab. Was able to just cancel the monthly one, and use the one from 'all products pack'. May look to upgrade again when the Junie stuff becomes available in the other IDEs.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by yodon »

mystified5016 wrote: post #32
rgbrenner wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

just don’t install the plugin

It's automatically installed and bundled with the IDE. You can disable it, but to uninstall fully you have to manually delete files from each and every IDE installation

As mentioned in another comment, you can add a .noai file to the root of your project to disable AI support.

As to deleting files that ship with the app but that aren't used if you disable them... that feels awfully 1980's "gosh disk space is expensive" thinking.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by esafak »

Medicineguy wrote: post #60
esafak wrote: post #54

I got confused by the Go in the title; "But their Go IDE is called GoLand?" They should not have capitalized it. Anyway, has anyone compared Junie with competing products?

I understand the confusion as I was confused myself for the same reason. I also attributed that to my english language level. But I think they just used title-case[1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_case

Short, minor words are usually not capitalized, as stated in the wiki article; esp. if they would cause confusion!

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by denismi »

> The AI Free tier gives you unlimited code completion and access to local AI models

Looking forward to giving this a try.

Work provides me with tooling and requires that I stick to approved AI tools, and my hobby-coding alone is just not important or regular enough to justify a paid subscription.

It's been a little annoying that I can have ollama running locally, enable ollama and configure it in my IDE, but still (seemingly?) not be able to make use of it without activating a paid AI Assistant license.

It makes perfect sense that cloud models would require payment, and that JetBrains would make some margin on that.

But I'm already paying for an IDE whose headline features have recently been so AI-focused, and if I'm also providing the compute, then I should really be able to use those features.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by antisthenes »

mjrpes wrote: post #55
netcan wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The business modelling behind it must be quite intense, I hope this doesn't blow up in JetBrains' face Historically... this tends to work out. Reminds me of Gmail initially allowing massive inbox. YouTube doing free hosting. All the various untethered LAMP hosting... If necessary they'll add an anti-abuse policy or whatnot to mitigate the heavy users. The sophisticated modeling is basically "just get going" with a g…

> Historically... this tends to work out. Reminds me of Gmail initially allowing massive inbox. YouTube doing free hosting. All the various untethered LAMP hosting... One difference I see: storage capacity and compute performance aren't increasing like they had in the past, so companies can't rely on these costs to dramatically drop in the future to offset bleeding cash initially to gain market share.

> One difference I see: storage capacity and compute performance aren't increasing like they had in the past

Companies stopped increasing free storage tiers ~10 years ago or even more, while the cost of storage has dropped significantly in that time period.

Both hard drives and SSDs.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by mcbuilder »

recursivedoubts wrote: post #57
Aurornis wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guarantee your students are going to learn how to delete the .noai file

Of course. As I tell them: I am a good teacher and my job is to teach you how to program computers well. It is possible to cheat and get a good grade in this class. If I catch you, I will report you to the university. But I'm not going to work hard to catch people, that's not my job: my job is to teach. You should learn. My concern isn't for students who are cheaters, there isn't much I can do about them. Rather it i…

How many students rely on AI, is that number really going up?

My son is 14 and knows about AI (I'm a researcher in the space, so I've been mentioning advances in it for years). He seems to code with some of his peers, and it seems like normal to me (python scripts, HTML, js type stuff written the old fasioned way [written by hand or copy pasting into a notebook.exe equivalent :P]). I try to be super honest with him, and I tell him AI is incredible, but we also joke about it and I explain the incredible drawbacks of vibe coding, especially while learning.

I wonder overall though how LLMs are going to effect CS education. Will students avoid using the tools, or will they be accepted? CS homework projects were always easier to cheat on vs say fine art, since of the ease one can copy and paste code, but AI tools makes trivial work of many homework exercises that would in theory be harder to implicate someone.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by singularity2001 »

ldjkfkdsjnv wrote: post #42

Since the ukraine war, jet brains products have gone way down hill. Their best engineers were in ukraine. The IDEs have become buggy and slow, sad to see this once very polished software lose relevance

Putin is killing one of the best software products out there?!

I was hoping Junie is very slow only because it's overwhelmed by the first wave of users trying it out.

Re: JetBrains IDEs Go AI: Coding Agent, Smarter Assistance, Free Tier

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Post by tasuki »

ai-christianson wrote: post #58

IMO I much prefer to have my dev tools be completely FOSS so I'm not building my career on skills that are tied to a proprietary sw provider.

Me too, though I think it's a personal preference rather than an economically rational decision.
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