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Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Post by nolist_policy »

antirez wrote: post #6

Gemini 2.5 pro is as powerful as everybody says. I still also use Claude Sonnet 3.7 only because the Gemini web UI has issues... (Imagine creating the best AI and then not allowing to attach Python or C files if not renamed .txt) but the way the model is better than anyone else is a "that's another league" experience. They have the biggest search engine and YouTube to leverage the power of the AI they are developing.…

On Chrome you can share your whole Project directory to Gemini. I think it uses the File System Access api which Firefox doesn't support.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Post by renewiltord »

isoprophlex wrote: post #48
ksec wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> (And don't let me get started with Sam Altman.) Please do.

I would like to know how he manages to appear, in every single photo I see of him, to look slightly but unmistakenly... moist , or at least sweaty.

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Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Post by nicpottier »

morsch wrote: post #53
jofzar wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to seriously disagree on it for the "assistant" part. It is so terrible vs Google assistant. There have been two really bad experiences that I had which boggled my mind. These are transcribed because these were so bad I took a screenshot. Example 1: "set an alarm for 15 minutes" > Gemini sets the alarm for 1:15pm "I want that to be 50 minutes" > "you can change the duration of alarms in the clock app" Example…

Gemini never sets alarms for me and always points me to the app. Trying to call people is a crap shoot. Presumably there are settings for this somewhere, but there are like fifty sharing settings in four different places and it's impossible to know which apply to the old assistant or Gemini or both or just on the lock screen or to connected devices or... It's a mess. It's even worse, when I tell it to set a timer now…

It was really bad at first for this type of thing. I just tried a few of them because I too had given up on them and they seem to work perfectly now. It even cancelled the alarm I had previously set when I simply said "cancel the last alarm".

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Post by esperent »

thawab wrote: post #37
Lukman wrote: post #25

In my experience Claude 3.7 is far superior for coding than Gemini 2.5. I tried it in Cursor and I wanted it to work, as a recent ex-Googler. I repeatedly found it inferior. I think it’s still behind Claud 3.5 for coding. It would decide arbitrarily not to finish tasks and suggest that I do them. It made simple errors and failed to catch them.

Your issue is because: 1- the cursor agent doesn’t work with gemini. Some times the diff edit even doesn’t work. 2- Cursor does semantic search to lower the token they sent to models. The big advantage for Gemini is the context window, use it with aider, clien or roo code.

> clien or roo code

What's the difference between Cline and Roo Code now? Originally Roo was a fork of Cline that added a couple of extra settings. But now it seems like an entirely different app, with it's own website even.

https://roocode.com/

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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ksec wrote: post #34
codelord wrote: post #31

As an Ex-OpenAI employee I agree with this. Most of the top ML talent at OpenAI already have left to either do their own thing or join other startups. A few are still there but I doubt if they'll be around in a year. The main successful product from OpenAI is the ChatGPT app, but there's a limit on how much you can charge people for subscription fees. I think soon people expect this service to be provided for free an…

> (And don't let me get started with Sam Altman.) Please do.

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Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Post by procaryote »

eru wrote: post #63
Waterluvian wrote: post #41

> I felt Demis Hassabis was trustworthy in a way Sam Altman couldn't be—a true scientist, not a businessman Not that I think Demis is or is not trustworthy, but I think it’s a bit foolish to believe it would be allowed to matter.

I also don't see why scientists should be more trustworthy than business people.

In theory, one seeks knowledge, the other money.

In practice, people are people and there are probably variance in both camps, but it's easy to see why one would by default trust a business person less

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Post by gundmc »

jofzar wrote: post #43
firecall wrote: post #9

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Just to add, I am mainly an iPhone user. But I have a Google Pixel 6a for dev and testing reasons. And Google Gemini for the voice assistant is excellent fun! Just being able to ask it weird and wonderful whilst on a road trip with the kids is worth the cost of a cheap Pixel phone alone!

I have to seriously disagree on it for the "assistant" part. It is so terrible vs Google assistant. There have been two really bad experiences that I had which boggled my mind. These are transcribed because these were so bad I took a screenshot. Example 1: "set an alarm for 15 minutes" > Gemini sets the alarm for 1:15pm "I want that to be 50 minutes" > "you can change the duration of alarms in the clock app" Example…

> October in Sydney

These sound like fairly dated anecdotes. I don't doubt them at all - I had similar horror stories. I disabled Gemini on my phone in order to keep the old assistant for a long time, but it really has gotten a lot better in the last few months.

Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Post by awful_comment »

isoprophlex wrote: post #48
ksec wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> (And don't let me get started with Sam Altman.) Please do.

I would like to know how he manages to appear, in every single photo I see of him, to look slightly but unmistakenly... moist , or at least sweaty.

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Re: Google is winning on every AI front

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Post by CuriouslyC »

retskrad wrote: post #23

Gemini 2.5 Pro might be one of the best for coding but for creative tasks like writing and sharing ideas, I vastly prefer GPT 4o and GPT 4.5 to an even larger extent.

Gemini 2.5 Pro's prose isn't quite as tight as GPT4.5s, but being able to have long form writing where your entire manuscript is in the context, along with all your source/background material, and it all gets used _well_ is pretty stellar. That lets Gemini update scenes in a really thoughtful, intelligent way, and frankly it's a better beta reader than ~85% of the people I've hired on Fiverr.
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