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I don't like traveling anymore

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Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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After 35, you don't like traveling but boy do you like 'Vacationing'. Author is right, after you travel (and slum it a bit) you realize that after surface level cultural/food/history differences everyone kinda/sorta wants similar things in life and while people's life stories are interesting, you start noticing patterns. OTOH, (Caveat:I don't have enough money for this) there is nothing that recharges you more than f…

Haha yeah, this feels way too real. There's definitely a point where the idea of "discovering yourself" through 4 a.m. bus rides and questionable hostels loses its charm, and a comfy robe, ocean view, and zero responsibilities start sounding like peak enlightenment.

does it? i haven't noticed. how about crossing the border at 3am with young kids and lots of luggage? once you have children the time of zero responsibilities is gone. at least until they are all grown up. i do enjoy a nice hotel only on business trips, because someone else is paying for it...

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea of “traveling the world” when young is a very recent, very privileged and very Western perspective. Growing up in post-communist Bulgaria during the 1990s and 2000s, I had never been abroad with my family as a child. At an age of 18 years, I started working from home as a PHP programmer for a guy from Switzerland I found online. When he invited me to his place in Basel for a 2-week visit, to me it felt like…

It's not all that recent, the concept of a Grand Tour around Europe's cultural touchstones in order to complete your education was quite common among the rich from the 17th century onwards

Key word being „among the rich“.

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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After 35, you don't like traveling but boy do you like 'Vacationing'. Author is right, after you travel (and slum it a bit) you realize that after surface level cultural/food/history differences everyone kinda/sorta wants similar things in life and while people's life stories are interesting, you start noticing patterns. OTOH, (Caveat:I don't have enough money for this) there is nothing that recharges you more than f…

For me, it's not so much the vacationing that I enjoy (I can do a pampered resort for maybe 1 week a year max before it gets really tiring). It's more a combination of already seeing a whole bunch of stuff and getting older (and feeling that older in my body) utterly changes the tradeoffs. Cramming my fat ass into an economy seat on flights longer than 4 hours to save a few thousand on flights 20's me was all over that, 40's me no freaking way. I can either afford the business class tickets or I'm not going at this point. Staying in a hostel/ renting a van and sleeping in the back of it to save a few thousand on hotels? Same deal hells yes for 20's me, PFO for 40's me. Flying in one spot, booking 1 or 2 nights in hostels traveling across the region for three weeks then flying out somewhere else? Big yes in my 20's big nope now. Now I fly in somewhere and spend at least 3 nights in every spot (but often a whole week) and instead of 35k+ steps and 12 hour plus non stop go days to see as much as possible, 10-15k usual, 20k max with some relaxation time planned for every day.

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

#74

There’s a weird gap in the modern world when it comes to travel, which is traveling as a group / society. In the distant past it was very common for entire societies to be nomadic. You’d have both your friends and family + movement around the globe. On the other hand, the solo traveler is a recent phenomenon largely enabled by 20th century technology and political developments. I know there are programs which travel…

The idea of "smooth space" being gone is kinda haunting. Everything's mapped, monetized, reviewed on TripAdvisor. There's very little true unknown left to stumble into

While that is definitely true, you can ignore it and choose local options. I often try to ask locals where they go to eat. Most people are excited to share a recommendation or two and why they like it.

Another thing I do, is avoid online menues at least ahead of visiting a spot and make my selections once I arrive. I can't say it's better, but it definitely keeps the serendipitous and suspense that I remember from my younger years before everything was online and had a million reviews.

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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I enjoy traveling a lot. Specifically traveling. Not arriving and staying somewhere, not vacationing, not sight seeing. Traveling has always been a fun experience to me. The road trip, the adventure part of a vacation. Spend a day or two to drive as far as possible, stop by places to rest and relax, then get back to it. Find an interesting road, where does that lead? People dismiss the adventure of traveling and just rush to the destination. Like quick travel in a game, if you walk to the destination, sometimes you find cool stuff, sometimes not, and sometimes you distract and detour so hard that you end up with a new destination instead. I don't consider flying to be traveling though, it's just flying to me, a rush of getting to a destination.

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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There’s a weird gap in the modern world when it comes to travel, which is traveling as a group / society. In the distant past it was very common for entire societies to be nomadic. You’d have both your friends and family + movement around the globe. On the other hand, the solo traveler is a recent phenomenon largely enabled by 20th century technology and political developments. I know there are programs which travel…

If we got to space colonization, I guess that could count as new, physical, smooth space?

Yeah I suppose we wouldn’t need a new planet, merely self-sustaining space colonies.

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

#77
post #9

After 35, you don't like traveling but boy do you like 'Vacationing'. Author is right, after you travel (and slum it a bit) you realize that after surface level cultural/food/history differences everyone kinda/sorta wants similar things in life and while people's life stories are interesting, you start noticing patterns. OTOH, (Caveat:I don't have enough money for this) there is nothing that recharges you more than f…

I disagree. I despise pampering in a country where everyone makes a pittance and slaving over some rich American is a more lucrative career than most others. I come from such a country.

It’s possible to have fun very easily, even a very relaxing vacation and not have most of the money siphoned away by some corporation like a giant resort company that plays fast and loose with local resources because the government is desperate for employment

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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After 35, you don't like traveling but boy do you like 'Vacationing'. Author is right, after you travel (and slum it a bit) you realize that after surface level cultural/food/history differences everyone kinda/sorta wants similar things in life and while people's life stories are interesting, you start noticing patterns. OTOH, (Caveat:I don't have enough money for this) there is nothing that recharges you more than f…

My wife and I are in our late 30s and did our first all-included resort trip about 2 years ago. It was boring and we went right back to our regular traveling of walking all over new countries to see the different culture and new places. Already planning our next 3 trips, none of them resorts.

Re: I don't like traveling anymore

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My traveling taught me that people are the same everywhere, but now that I know that, I no longer want to to travel just travel. It’s more of a reminder of that

i came to the opposite conclusion. people are vastly different. interestingly initially i was only traveling in western countries and i paid attention to the differences between say europeans and americans, western and eastern europeans, etc. there were plenty of differences, but those differences disappeared when i reached asia. i found a culture and attitude that is vastly different from everything western. while one year in new zealand was enough to learn about it. 15 years in china aren't.
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