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Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by minimaxir »

jpalawaga wrote: post #51

Despite all of the negative/critical takes, I think the switch 2 looks great. The hardware improvements look nice. The top usb-port is a great addition with the kickstand, so you can actually charge while you play (this was a bust with switch 1). I think the camera is also good. I actually really look forward to playing mario games with my nieces. And for those who don't want it, it's no extra cost. 120fps and 1080p…

> I wonder how much AI is used.

The trailer for GameChat shows audio background noise removal and image segmentation with the camera. I suspect modern AI is used everywhere even outside of games.

For games, DLSS and other upscaling techniques are widely used and accepted, despite gamers' anonimosity for generative AI.

Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by alabastervlog »

jpalawaga wrote: post #51

Despite all of the negative/critical takes, I think the switch 2 looks great. The hardware improvements look nice. The top usb-port is a great addition with the kickstand, so you can actually charge while you play (this was a bust with switch 1). I think the camera is also good. I actually really look forward to playing mario games with my nieces. And for those who don't want it, it's no extra cost. 120fps and 1080p…

Despite giving no shits about the new features (possible durability improvements aside) this'd be a month-one purchase for me (availability allowing), but the price is... bad.

I'd been counting on buying this this year, like, nearly sure I would be, it was my one planned splurge in a year of uncertainty and belt-tightening, and still would be if we got the Japanese-version pricing, but this is gonna be a no.

Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

legitster wrote: post #30
minimaxir wrote: post #2

The real takeaway is $80 MSRP games, and I’m surprised it was Nintendo that crossed that particular Rubicon.

For comparison, some of the original NES games were MSRP $45. That's the equivalent of over $100 today. (Although, of that $45, 15% went to distributors and another 15% went to retailers).

Late Super Nintendo and early N64 games went up to even $70/$75, if memory serves. I remember an uncle getting me NBA Hangtime for my birthday one year at $75.

I think it definitely contributed to the PS1 outselling the N64. There were many reasons, of course, but seeing those Toys R' Us flyers where the PS1 games were marked $40-50 and the N64 games at $60-70...I'm sure it gave some parents pause about which systems they were buying their children.

Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by BearOso »

jsheard wrote: post #63
BearOso wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The physical game cards are going to be expensive to manufacture because they need to be much faster. Look at the cost of microSD Express cards. I thought they might go entirely virtual with required installation. Needless to say, 80 USD is too high for me, personally. 70 is pushing it, honestly. Most of the time you can use sites like isthereanydeal and even get new releases under 60, but that's a no-go with Nintend…

The carts will be expensive to make if they actually have the game on them, but some will just be a DRM dongle which allows you to download and play the game. https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/...

That's what I meant when I said I predicted the game cards would be virtual. I didn't know that was actually the case.

Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by gradientsrneat »

A Kirby Air Ride successor?

Kirby Air Ride was one of the best and most unique Gamecube games. A sequel to do the original justice would be a big deal.

Sadly, Nintendo has made a reputation for itself as a copyright troll, most notoriously their legal takedowns of YouTube lets plays. As a result, I have boycotted Nintendo for over ten years now. While the new releases are tempting, Nintendo's recent legal actions against Palworld sour that proposition. Although I admittedly only can have so much respect for a Windows-only game with anti-cheat.

Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by Fricken »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #74
legitster wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For comparison, some of the original NES games were MSRP $45. That's the equivalent of over $100 today. (Although, of that $45, 15% went to distributors and another 15% went to retailers).

Late Super Nintendo and early N64 games went up to even $70/$75, if memory serves. I remember an uncle getting me NBA Hangtime for my birthday one year at $75. I think it definitely contributed to the PS1 outselling the N64. There were many reasons, of course, but seeing those Toys R' Us flyers where the PS1 games were marked $40-50 and the N64 games at $60-70...I'm sure it gave some parents pause about which systems…

I got the NES Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game for christmas in 1990. My mom left the price tag on so I could see how ridiculously overpriced it was: $69 CDN. It was a crap game.

Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by [deleted] »

minimaxir wrote: post #71
jpalawaga wrote: post #51

Despite all of the negative/critical takes, I think the switch 2 looks great. The hardware improvements look nice. The top usb-port is a great addition with the kickstand, so you can actually charge while you play (this was a bust with switch 1). I think the camera is also good. I actually really look forward to playing mario games with my nieces. And for those who don't want it, it's no extra cost. 120fps and 1080p…

> I wonder how much AI is used. The trailer for GameChat shows audio background noise removal and image segmentation with the camera. I suspect modern AI is used everywhere even outside of games. For games, DLSS and other upscaling techniques are widely used and accepted, despite gamers' anonimosity for generative AI.

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Re: Nintendo unveils Switch 2 ahead of June 5 launch

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Post by alabastervlog »

minimaxir wrote: post #60
mepian wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it bombs, it will. The Nintendo 3DS set a precedent for this.

The 3DS (and relatedly the Wii U) bombed because they had fatal, expensive gimmicks. The Switch 2 is a hardware iteration that everyone has been asking for. It won't bomb.

Both also had a massive own-goal branding problem, in that nobody who wasn't a gaming nerd could figure out they were totally new consoles, not new editions of an existing one, from the name.

The 3DS had it even worse than the Wii U, since the DS line had several versions with very-similar names some of which were variants of existing ones, and a couple of which were actually totally new platforms (was it the DSi that was the other one? I can't even fully remember and I'm way farther down the console-nerd path than the vast majority of people)

At least they just put a number after this one, so folks will get it this time.

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