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Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by cyberpunk »

te_chris wrote: post #56
sollewitt wrote: post #16

Djay’s killer feature is algorithmic stem extraction. The streaming audio services that have integration (Tidal, now Apple Music) don’t allow this processing. It’s an arbitrary technical limitation that I suspect is rooted in a licensing agreement from the rights holders. tl;dr this is great for playing with sequencing, but a lot of modern djays will want to be able to do stem separation even when exploring, and live…

It works on serato

I just tried it in Serato and it says stems are not available for streaming music. Their wiki says so also(0).

0: https://support.serato.com/hc/en-us/articles/12188545880719-...

Real bummer, I still have to pipe stuff through Ableton, record it, then import it..

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by ethagknight »

Im a little confused, if I wanted to create a mix with my favorite parts of songs, is this something I can do relatively easily from Apple Music? Or do I need to get additional hardware or buy some extra software?

I love a lot of jam bands, but dont always want to listen to the uhhh lengthy preambles and wandering postludes, just want the gravy. Would love to mix together some highlights along with other non jam songs. Also think my wife and daughter would appreciate Phish more if it wasnt just so. much. phish.

Or is this different?

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by shlant »

Mashimo wrote: post #47
larodi wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, you actually bring two as links don’t always work and flash drives tend to die in most unexpected ways. Besides this whole ‘get it from the streaming app’ business is indeed best suited for bedroom deejays. Everybody who cares about their craft as a professionL cuts VIP versions and dubplate loops that don’t get released on these platforms at all. The real recent (~10 years) breakthrough in this area was/is t…

> is indeed best suited for bedroom deejays. Or wedding / event DJs who handle requests. I would not delete the local files, but having a streaming service with popular music would certainly help. > Everybody who cares about their craft as a professionL cuts VIP versions and dubplate loops If that is the case, I don't know a single DJs who cares about their craft. Makes you think.

> If that is the case, I don't know a single DJs who cares about their craft. Makes you think.

Yea when that sentence started I was ready to agree until they made a point which seems more relevant to producers than DJs

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by shlant »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #26
Gigachad wrote: post #4

Probably isn't huge for existing DJs who would need the reliability of having stuff on a USB in venues which might not have great internet access. But I can see this being good for the casual users at home since this is the first streaming integration which doesn't charge an additional DJ subscription on top of the standard subscription.

Yep, almost by definition most DJs play unreleased stuff that wouldn’t be on streaming services for years.

the vast majority of DJs are not producers so no

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by 999900000999 »

ahilss wrote: post #30

I’m the developer of Transitions DJ ( https://dj.app/ ). If anyone can connect me with the team at Apple Music, I would be interested in doing an integration.

This is the best thing I've seen on this website all week, what midi controllers do you suggest. I'm a very amateur musician and this feels perfect for making fun chopped up remixes of some of my music.

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by shlant »

input_sh wrote: post #49
nanna wrote: post #45

I recently learned that DJs today just press a button to mix two tracks. Growing up mixing and beat matching used to be a skill to be proud of. Now it's just a button. So I was told.

There's no skill involved in pitching the two nearly-identical-in-BPM tracks and nudging them into rhythm. Put any sync button DJ in front of a proper CDJ setup, give them a couple of hours to practice and they will be able to pull off a set. Most importantly: it is the least important part of the job. Nobody in the crowd gives a shit about whether or not you're using the sync button, it makes no difference to them.…

not sure why you are being downvoted. Beat-matching is the most straightforward and least interesting part of being/experiencing a DJ. I think every DJ needs to know how to do it but IMO most of the overemphasis on beat-matching comes from cringe gatekeeping. To me, it's akin to thinking an actor remembering their lines is the focus of acting.

Mixing vinyl well is definitely an impressive skill but I (and I suspect the vast majority of people) don't care at all about how people are mixing tracks (until it's to the detriment of the music). Most people care about what makes them dance and/or feel something.

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by sowbug »

ThatMedicIsASpy wrote: post #68
sowbug wrote: post #9

I steer clear of Apple products, but I've still had a lot of fun in this space thanks to DJ Studio ( https://dj.studio/ ), a desktop app that helps make offline (rather than real-time) mixes. I use it to make a monthly personal mixtape, which is a nice way to remember what I used to listen to. They call it a "DAW for DJs," which is accurate. I especially admire the team that makes it. The CEO records demo videos that…

Looks interesting - only to see I have to convert my whole flac library

It works with FLAC; in fact, that's preferred, because you want to start with the best available quality.

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by rconti »

ThatMedicIsASpy wrote: post #68
sowbug wrote: post #9

I steer clear of Apple products, but I've still had a lot of fun in this space thanks to DJ Studio ( https://dj.studio/ ), a desktop app that helps make offline (rather than real-time) mixes. I use it to make a monthly personal mixtape, which is a nice way to remember what I used to listen to. They call it a "DAW for DJs," which is accurate. I especially admire the team that makes it. The CEO records demo videos that…

Looks interesting - only to see I have to convert my whole flac library

How do you know someone's into crossfit^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H FLAC? :D

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by Mashimo »

ethagknight wrote: post #72

Im a little confused, if I wanted to create a mix with my favorite parts of songs, is this something I can do relatively easily from Apple Music? Or do I need to get additional hardware or buy some extra software? I love a lot of jam bands, but dont always want to listen to the uhhh lengthy preambles and wandering postludes, just want the gravy. Would love to mix together some highlights along with other non jam song…

This is different. Apple just allows 3rd DJ software to use their streaming catalog.

These software are designed for "live" mixes, not like a DAW where you can build it up one by one and "render" it.

Technically you don't need hardware for DJ software, but I would say is frustrating without. Here is a free example software (without apple music integration) https://dj.app/

Re: DJ With Apple Music launches to enable subscribers to mix their own sets

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Post by dialup_sounds »

ethagknight wrote: post #72

Im a little confused, if I wanted to create a mix with my favorite parts of songs, is this something I can do relatively easily from Apple Music? Or do I need to get additional hardware or buy some extra software? I love a lot of jam bands, but dont always want to listen to the uhhh lengthy preambles and wandering postludes, just want the gravy. Would love to mix together some highlights along with other non jam song…

This is different. This allows DJ software to utilize Apple Music as a library. You would still need DJ software to actually make a mix.

However, for your use case, if you're already using Apple Music, you can set start and end points on individual tracks (Get Info on the track, Options). This is nondestructive, but not specific to the playlist so you'd have to turn it off again to hear the full track, and your export options are limited to burning to CDs.

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