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Botswana launches first satellite BOTSAT-1 aboard SpaceX Falcon 9

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Re: Botswana launches first satellite BOTSAT-1 aboard SpaceX Falcon 9

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Post by concordDance »

pc86 wrote: post #46
lolinder wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Edit (rather than reply and make the comment chain long): Sorry to go meta here, but this is just rude, both to OP and to other readers. For OP, you're effectively pre-empting what they say with your own counterargument, and even more so you're removing the ability for them to counter your counter. You're essentially using the edit feature to end the conversation and ensure you have the final word. For other reader…

> Sorry to go meta here, but this is just rude, both to OP and to other readers. ... You're essentially using the edit feature to end the conversation and ensure you have the final word. I've noticed this more and more, especially on more controversial topics (which this is certainly not). Adam makes a statement, Betty responds. Adam responds, and Betty edits her initial response and conversation ends, likely because…

Could also be because rate limiting. People need to conserve their number of posts per day.

Re: Botswana launches first satellite BOTSAT-1 aboard SpaceX Falcon 9

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Post by cooper_ganglia »

martinky24 wrote: post #44
blobbers wrote: post #38

… this does not seem like their best use of resources.

Can you expand on this? I'm curious how you think these resources should be better allocated. Make sure the same argument doesn't apply to any of the other countries with space assets!

24% of the country is malnourished and 4% of children die before their 5th birthday. This feels like misaligned priorities...

https://www.globalhungerindex.org/botswana.html

Re: Botswana launches first satellite BOTSAT-1 aboard SpaceX Falcon 9

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Post by appleorchard46 »

Aeolun wrote: post #59
pc86 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sorry to go meta here, but this is just rude, both to OP and to other readers. ... You're essentially using the edit feature to end the conversation and ensure you have the final word. I've noticed this more and more, especially on more controversial topics (which this is certainly not). Adam makes a statement, Betty responds. Adam responds, and Betty edits her initial response and conversation ends, likely because…

Isn’t that fine? Not all of those conversations have to be taken to the end.

Mm, as long as the edit is clear it seems like a good way to avoid unproductive arguments.

Adam makes a statement, but the responses show the statement was unclear and/or leads into tangential arguments. An edit can clarify the initial statement for future readers without getting the original poster stuck in the back-and-forth necessary to escape whatever quagmire the unedited version created.

Re: Botswana launches first satellite BOTSAT-1 aboard SpaceX Falcon 9

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Post by heraldgeezer »

igravious wrote: post #60
heraldgeezer wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These types of countries can't even keep power, internet WAN, mobile RAN/Core, infra up on a consistent basis. I knew it had to be something like this. Yes, mask off. Yes, I am tired.

I'm curious, which "type" of country are you saying Botswana is? As far as I'm aware of Botswana does not have the power outages of its neighbour South Africa … Perhaps you're right, maybe it is a mask off moment for you … “Botswana, a landlocked country in Southern Africa, has recently made considerable strides in developing a reliable electricity supply network to support its growing economy and improve the quality…

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Re: Botswana launches first satellite BOTSAT-1 aboard SpaceX Falcon 9

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Post by heraldgeezer »

walrus01 wrote: post #61
heraldgeezer wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These types of countries can't even keep power, internet WAN, mobile RAN/Core, infra up on a consistent basis. I knew it had to be something like this. Yes, mask off. Yes, I am tired.

> can't even keep power, internet WAN, mobile RAN/Core, infra up on a consistent basis. You could say this as well about significant parts of Appalachia in the US and other impoverished regions of the US, and many first nations reserves in remote parts of Canada too.

I really liked Peter Santellos video on Appalachia. Really beautiful landscape and small towns. There was affluent housing there too and pretty sure they would have cell service?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEyPgwIPkHo5If6xyrkr-...

But Appalachia are not launching satellites. They DO have a space telescope!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bank_Telescope

Very nice video also showing nice landscapes and towns :)

Exploring the Secret US Government Town with No Internet & Phone Service (100% Disconnected?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWJBAGrG0ms

>and many first nations reserves in remote parts of Canada too

Ok, but it would be suprising if an article said they are launching a sattelite?

Re: Botswana launches first satellite BOTSAT-1 aboard SpaceX Falcon 9

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Post by itake »

cooper_ganglia wrote: post #72
martinky24 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you expand on this? I'm curious how you think these resources should be better allocated. Make sure the same argument doesn't apply to any of the other countries with space assets!

24% of the country is malnourished and 4% of children die before their 5th birthday. This feels like misaligned priorities... https://www.globalhungerindex.org/botswana.html

How are satellite engineers supposed to address malnourished children?

Re: Botswana launches first satellite BOTSAT-1 aboard SpaceX Falcon 9

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Post by ok_dad »

concordDance wrote: post #71
pc86 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sorry to go meta here, but this is just rude, both to OP and to other readers. ... You're essentially using the edit feature to end the conversation and ensure you have the final word. I've noticed this more and more, especially on more controversial topics (which this is certainly not). Adam makes a statement, Betty responds. Adam responds, and Betty edits her initial response and conversation ends, likely because…

Could also be because rate limiting. People need to conserve their number of posts per day.

Yes some people get rate limited here, I think it’s the default. I’ve edited comments like this simply because I couldn’t respond, even after like an hour. I think I emailed the mods here and they removed the limit, but I still try to conserve posting when I can, even deleting responses that weren’t very good, sometimes.

Re: Botswana launches first satellite BOTSAT-1 aboard SpaceX Falcon 9

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Post by barbazoo »

echoangle wrote: post #2

Don’t want to belittle the achievement but they launched it as in „had it launched by the commercial launch provider SpaceX“, not on a self-developed rocket as it sounds like on the first read.

I took “launch” a bit less literal. They launch a product, an initiative, whatever.

Re: Botswana launches first satellite BOTSAT-1 aboard SpaceX Falcon 9

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Post by noduerme »

Aeolun wrote: post #59
pc86 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sorry to go meta here, but this is just rude, both to OP and to other readers. ... You're essentially using the edit feature to end the conversation and ensure you have the final word. I've noticed this more and more, especially on more controversial topics (which this is certainly not). Adam makes a statement, Betty responds. Adam responds, and Betty edits her initial response and conversation ends, likely because…

Isn’t that fine? Not all of those conversations have to be taken to the end.

Imagine you're having an in-person conversation with someone in a crowded restaurant. Rather than addressing their next response to you, they wait until you go to the bathroom. Then they turn to everyone at the next table and say, "that guy doesn't get it, but fine."

I personally think that in a no-holds-barred debate, you don't bother trying to convince your interlocutor of anything. You focus on persuading everyone else in the room. But it's rude to treat every polite conversation as a smackdown debate. Such a strategy can also backfire by turning off your intended audience, as evidenced here.

Re: Botswana launches first satellite BOTSAT-1 aboard SpaceX Falcon 9

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Post by zuminator »

heraldgeezer wrote: post #74
igravious wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious, which "type" of country are you saying Botswana is? As far as I'm aware of Botswana does not have the power outages of its neighbour South Africa … Perhaps you're right, maybe it is a mask off moment for you … “Botswana, a landlocked country in Southern Africa, has recently made considerable strides in developing a reliable electricity supply network to support its growing economy and improve the quality…

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> baby being fed this equality all countries are good blergh blergh bs all my life.

Nobody in this thread has made anything like those kinds of sentiments. The very fact that we are taking note of Botswana's satellite nearly 70 years after Spitnik 1 makes it quite obvious how much less developed they are in aerospace. I would think that especially if someone is against such things as foreign aid to non-Europeans, and culturally relative assessment of intelligence, that they would be in favor of seeing countries like Botswana take steps to develop home grown expertise in engineering, reducing the need to rely on outside largesse, and coming a step closer to achieving developmental escape velocity.

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