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Linux kernel 6.14 is a big leap forward in performance and Windows compatibility

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Re: Linux kernel 6.14 is a big leap forward in performance and Windows compatibility

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Post by Jare »

maccard wrote: post #42
jchw wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know, though, his conduct nowadays isn't really that bad; I don't think I'd be bothered by it in a workplace environment. He makes strong assertions, but not mean-spirited, and I think Linus has a lot of reasons to feel highly confident when he makes strong assertions when it comes to Linux. Of course, there are some moments, but almost everybody has their moments. When push comes to shove, Linus seems to handle…

> I don’t think I’d be bothered by it in a workplace environment https://lkml.org/lkml/2025/2/23/351 This was a month ago. I wouldn’t stand for this in a company I worked for.

Seriously? That criticism is more polite than some of my praises.

Re: Linux kernel 6.14 is a big leap forward in performance and Windows compatibility

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Post by jaimehrubiks »

nodesocket wrote: post #70

I also believe this kernel adds Intel GPU support for the N100 and N150 chips used in lots of mini PCs. I have a Beelink N150 rig running various Docker containers that I am curious to test some light AI workloads on.

What would be the meaning of that? I have a Beelink with N100 for more than a year and HW acceleration works already (I use it in Jellyfin), so I wonder what do you mean that "intel gpu support" would mean.

Re: Linux kernel 6.14 is a big leap forward in performance and Windows compatibility

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Post by foresto »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #37
cube00 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But no. It's just pure incompetence. While I don't agree with how he conducts himself on the mailing lists; I respect he uses the same language when talking about himself.

Does he willingly take that treatment from others? I don't really know, but that would be the actual test of congruence.

I don't follow the lkml enough to highlight a pattern, but this recent exchange comes to mind:

On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 8:52 PM Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Jason. This smells. It's BS.

On Thu, 4 Jul 2024 at 11:57, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:

> It's not BS. And that's not a real argument from you, but rather is something else.

On Thu, 4 Jul 2024 at 12:19, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Bah. I guess I'll have to walk through the patch series once again.

> I'm still not thrilled about it. But I'll give it another go.

> Linus

https://lkml.org/lkml/2024/7/4/1208

Re: Linux kernel 6.14 is a big leap forward in performance and Windows compatibility

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Post by dayjah »

inetknght wrote: post #65
maccard wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right at the end > So next time you want to write an email to complain about rust support: take a look in the mirror. > Is the problem actually the rust code causing you issue, or is the problem between the keyboard and the chair, and you just want to vent?

So your problem with the email is that you don't like it when a leadership guy tells people to look at themselves before they cry. Well, I'm glad you're not my lead. I want people to tell me when I'm doing something wrong. It's how I learn and grow.

Both can be true at once, right?

Some folks need more carrot, some need more stick. I don’t know the actors in this play, but I assume Linus (who presumably does have a mental map for these actors) is choosing to strike a tone which gets the message across without causing lasting damage.

Perhaps GP carries with them Linus’ priors resulting in a different reading of this specific message.

Re: Linux kernel 6.14 is a big leap forward in performance and Windows compatibility

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Post by nchmy »

maccard wrote: post #42
jchw wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know, though, his conduct nowadays isn't really that bad; I don't think I'd be bothered by it in a workplace environment. He makes strong assertions, but not mean-spirited, and I think Linus has a lot of reasons to feel highly confident when he makes strong assertions when it comes to Linux. Of course, there are some moments, but almost everybody has their moments. When push comes to shove, Linus seems to handle…

> I don’t think I’d be bothered by it in a workplace environment https://lkml.org/lkml/2025/2/23/351 This was a month ago. I wouldn’t stand for this in a company I worked for.

What? There was literally nothing wrong with that message - including the final sentence. He's calling for everyone to self-reflect and have humility - only someone profoundly lacking in it could be bothered by a message like this

Re: Linux kernel 6.14 is a big leap forward in performance and Windows compatibility

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Post by nodesocket »

jaimehrubiks wrote: post #72
nodesocket wrote: post #70

I also believe this kernel adds Intel GPU support for the N100 and N150 chips used in lots of mini PCs. I have a Beelink N150 rig running various Docker containers that I am curious to test some light AI workloads on.

What would be the meaning of that? I have a Beelink with N100 for more than a year and HW acceleration works already (I use it in Jellyfin), so I wonder what do you mean that "intel gpu support" would mean.

What OS are you running? I’m running Debian 12 Stable and can’t get nvtop to detect it. Searching I found this Reddit thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MiniPCs/comments/1htxoi6/beelink_mi...

Did you add backports or recompile? I think N100 may be supported by stable but not N150.

Re: Linux kernel 6.14 is a big leap forward in performance and Windows compatibility

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Post by p_ing »

charcircuit wrote: post #66
jmclnx wrote: post #7

>This driver is designed to emulate Windows NT synchronization primitives To me, anything that emulates windows primitives is a bad thing. Again these changes being pushed by Microsoft make me glad the BSDs exist. Lets hope the BSDs can continue staying independent of Large Corporations.

NT is more advanced than Unix. It's a good thing for Linux to be adopting these decade old ideas.

Without providing examples, like no giant lock (mostly gone on Linux, now), IOCP, less monolithic kernel, inherit async I/O in the kernel, et. al., your assertion going to be lost on those who see "Windows == bad", which it certainly is closer to the surface.

Re: Linux kernel 6.14 is a big leap forward in performance and Windows compatibility

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Post by maccard »

inetknght wrote: post #65
maccard wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right at the end > So next time you want to write an email to complain about rust support: take a look in the mirror. > Is the problem actually the rust code causing you issue, or is the problem between the keyboard and the chair, and you just want to vent?

So your problem with the email is that you don't like it when a leadership guy tells people to look at themselves before they cry. Well, I'm glad you're not my lead. I want people to tell me when I'm doing something wrong. It's how I learn and grow.

You can provide direct actionable feedback without being passive aggressive and insulting people.

Edit: https://lkml.org/lkml/2025/2/20/2066 here’s a really good example of Linus not taking any shit and doing so professionally

Re: Linux kernel 6.14 is a big leap forward in performance and Windows compatibility

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Post by maccard »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #67
maccard wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t think I’d be bothered by it in a workplace environment https://lkml.org/lkml/2025/2/23/351 This was a month ago. I wouldn’t stand for this in a company I worked for.

For someone in the games industry, you have an exceptionally thin skin and must have not been in many high stakes crises if the last two sentences bother you so much.

I don’t see how you can take away that they bother me so much and I must have a thin skin. If I saw them in a work email I’d ignore them and move on. If one of my direct reports sent that to a coworker I’d take them to the side and remind them to not be a dick .

It’s perfectly possible to be firm and direct without insulting people.

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