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The Great Barefoot Running Hysteria of 2010

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Re: The Great Barefoot Running Hysteria of 2010

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Post by tejohnso »

I remember running down the street and back with my new vibram 5 fingers just to try them out. The next day my calves were so sore I could barely walk. I couldn't wait to do it again.

I've since moved on to minimalist runners with a flat thin sole and wide toe area. Unfortunately I ended up stepping on a small sharp pebble at one point and have a very hard and sometimes painful area of tough skin on the pad of my foot. Nevertheless, I'll still answer the call to run on a warm sunny day.

Re: The Great Barefoot Running Hysteria of 2010

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Post by haswell »

franktankbank wrote: post #63
paulcole wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t need a citation. Just a simple explanation why it is so obvious and so beneficial.

Do you need an explanation of why the touch of another human would be obviously beneficial? I find walking on bare dirt or earth to be similar. I think experiencing is believing.

I think the need for an explanation/citation scales relative to how common a given anecdotal experience is.

I’ve spent plenty of time walking barefoot outside but apparently have not experienced what people here are claiming. Not saying no one can/does, but at the very least the experience doesn’t seem to be universal.

Re: The Great Barefoot Running Hysteria of 2010

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Post by NoImmatureAdHom »

iamacyborg wrote: post #42
mapcars wrote: post #37

There are so many things put together here almost randomly, because of that its easy to criticise the whole thing, but there are some reasonable things in it. Having barefoot connection with soil is definitely good for you, so is any reasonable exposure to nature. The key here is exposure to nature, walking on asphalt or concrete is not nature. This is about walking barefoot so that your soles connect to the soil, ea…

> Having barefoot connection with soil is definitely good for you Citation needed

Yeah...I'm not saying he's wrong, but I am saying you can get hookworm that way. Choose your soil wisely.

Re: The Great Barefoot Running Hysteria of 2010

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Post by paulcole »

franktankbank wrote: post #63
paulcole wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t need a citation. Just a simple explanation why it is so obvious and so beneficial.

Do you need an explanation of why the touch of another human would be obviously beneficial? I find walking on bare dirt or earth to be similar. I think experiencing is believing.

OK now I need a citation lol.

Re: The Great Barefoot Running Hysteria of 2010

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Post by NoImmatureAdHom »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #43

To add to the anecdotal support for barefoot running: I ran in traditional running shoes for years ... and my knees were eventually not happy. I gave up running, assuming I just had bad knees . When I heard about barefoot running a year or so later, I tried it. Running on the balls of my feet took some re-learning but the knee pain never came back. I continued to run for 4 or 5 years. (I'm not sure why I started walk…

Don't pull up with clips on the bike. No need to. I recall (but will not look up) a study showing the most efficient pro riders don't pull either.

Re: The Great Barefoot Running Hysteria of 2010

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Post by Xmd5a »

mapcars wrote: post #37

There are so many things put together here almost randomly, because of that its easy to criticise the whole thing, but there are some reasonable things in it. Having barefoot connection with soil is definitely good for you, so is any reasonable exposure to nature. The key here is exposure to nature, walking on asphalt or concrete is not nature. This is about walking barefoot so that your soles connect to the soil, ea…

>even the holiest of people would wear shoes when going on rough terrain, thats just a question of sanity.

https://medium.com/mr-plan-publication/natures-footprints-ex...

Re: The Great Barefoot Running Hysteria of 2010

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Post by intrasight »

subpixel wrote: post #16
ineedaj0b wrote: post #6

i started and ran a barefoot running club back then. it doesn't make your foot stronger. but you do learn to put up with pain. i did real no shoe barefoot running and pushed most people to try that. it did have an effect; no more twisted ankles. i got them quite often and never after 3 months of no shoes. there was a kid who eventually played d1 ball who joined because he had 'bad ankles' and still credits me for sol…

I was in a trail running club in that era and the organizer and a few others ran in flat Luna sandals. I will say that their form was beautiful - there’s no question in my mind that barefoot-inspired running produces a more natural locomotion. But I tried it and it was a bust. A one mile run would lock my calf up, and that would set me back for weeks. I still have the Lunas and wear them on the boat.

I trail run and hike in my Chaco sandals. I need the arch support. I also wear socks when I do it because then small stones and rocks don't cause any issues.

Re: The Great Barefoot Running Hysteria of 2010

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Post by franktankbank »

paulcole wrote: post #74
franktankbank wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you need an explanation of why the touch of another human would be obviously beneficial? I find walking on bare dirt or earth to be similar. I think experiencing is believing.

OK now I need a citation lol.

Cite me then as far you trust I'm representing my own truth. I don't even know what you are demanding exactly. There's not going to be any universal human truth so its going to be made up of opinionated reporting with arbitrary scientific assignments. You don't believe that the average person has positive feelings about walking on meadow or mud or whatever scientific endpoint? Or you don't think human touch is on average perceived positively? Or you want to see some +X years survival for those in arbitrary group compared to this other arbitrary group. Like I said, I believe what I experience, so very sorry to extrapolate a simple life experience almost universal to all humans since the dawn of time onto my suburban vice lord.

Re: The Great Barefoot Running Hysteria of 2010

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Post by NikkiA »

mapcars wrote: post #37

There are so many things put together here almost randomly, because of that its easy to criticise the whole thing, but there are some reasonable things in it. Having barefoot connection with soil is definitely good for you, so is any reasonable exposure to nature. The key here is exposure to nature, walking on asphalt or concrete is not nature. This is about walking barefoot so that your soles connect to the soil, ea…

nod I grew up with access to a big back garden, so barefoot walked on it a lot, unfortunately it involved crossing a little bit of asphalt pathway to get to, and I still have nightmares of the feeling of small sharp stones digging in my feet.

A similar late-teens habit I developed was going out and laying on the grass pretty much naked, when I couldn't sleep late at night, and just staring at the milky way. It was a peace I have no idea how I'd get back.

Re: The Great Barefoot Running Hysteria of 2010

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Post by sandos »

cladopa wrote: post #62

I have run barefoot and used minimal soles for more than 20 years, also using "normal" shoes from time to time, most of the time I use minimal, no heel soles. That is something I did when I started working from home long hours as heels were very harmful for me. If you are thinking about doing it when you never did before, DON'T. You should be doing a progressive transition. It changes your knees, ankles and calves. I…

I have a bad heel on my right foot, and I have had to "walk on my toes" basically, without putting much pressure on the heel. It was excruciating in the beginning, I hated it. Now I do it without thinking much about it.

My problem? I walk on my left heel normally... Duh. Resulting in very assymetric walk. I am trying to "fix" this. It will probably take another 6 months or year..

By the way, running on toes feels wonderful compared to walking on your toes, in my opinion.

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