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A glitch in an online survey replaced the word 'yes' with 'forks'

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Re: A glitch in an online survey replaced the word 'yes' with 'forks'

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Common with international treaties. The trade agreement known as USMCA in the USA is known as CUSMA in Canada and T-MEC (Treaty between Mexico, USA, and Canada) in Mexico. Countries almost always put themselves first.

To be fair, if they don't, no one else will!

https://www.sefaria.org/Pirkei_Avot.1.14?lang=bi

"He used to say, if I am not for myself, who will be for me?"

Re: A glitch in an online survey replaced the word 'yes' with 'forks'

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> For some respondents, this prompted their browser to believe our survey was written in a language other than English (even though, again, it was in English) and ask if they wanted the page to be translated to English – or, we think, automatically try to translate the page to English. I goddamn hate this "feature" so much. Especially since it sometimes resets and then I have to find out where the fuck Google moved t…

You're going to love YouTube automatically translating video titles to your geo-ip language... For the next project-manager-promotion-worthy feature, they also do auto-dubbing of the speech now!

> You're going to love YouTube automatically translating video titles to your geo-ip language...

This is the worst feature of YouTube for me. Any idea how I can turn this off and show the original language title?

Re: A glitch in an online survey replaced the word 'yes' with 'forks'

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I gave this a little bit of thought and here is my best hypothesis.

The token "yes", which is not a word in Spanish, might have been tried as "Y es".

That in turn being taken as a sentence fragment, meaning "It's a Y". (Spanish isn't verb-final, but let's go with it).

The letter Y is a symbol of forking.

If something is likened to a Y, that's a way of saying it forks.

Anyway, translation tools sometimes do weird things when the input is a sentence fragment or just a word or two.

UPDATE:

When I type "Y es" into Google translate, tagging it as Spanish, those two tokens still go to "Forks". This adds a little bit of support to my hypothesis.

However, "Y e s" also translates to "Forks".

Inputs like "A es", "B es", "C es" don't do anything; they go to "A is", "B is", ...

Moreover "Y es verde" and "Y e s verde" and "Yes verde" all go to "and it's green".

UPDATE:

It is false that "yes" is not a Spanish word. The letter Y is called "ye", and the plural of that is "yes". Just like when we say that giggle has "three gees", we are using a plural of the letter name "gee". https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y

Re: A glitch in an online survey replaced the word 'yes' with 'forks'

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post #13

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Similarly, there was a time when Google translated "Japan" in Japanese to "Korea" in Korean... because documents scraped from the web would say "Japan and Korea" in Japanese and "Korea and Japan" in Korean.

Common with international treaties. The trade agreement known as USMCA in the USA is known as CUSMA in Canada and T-MEC (Treaty between Mexico, USA, and Canada) in Mexico. Countries almost always put themselves first.

And NATO is also OTAN, because France insisted on having a French translation of the treaty to be treated equally with English version.

Btw NATO and OTAN being anagrams is a coincidence

Re: A glitch in an online survey replaced the word 'yes' with 'forks'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Common with international treaties. The trade agreement known as USMCA in the USA is known as CUSMA in Canada and T-MEC (Treaty between Mexico, USA, and Canada) in Mexico. Countries almost always put themselves first.

And NATO is also OTAN, because France insisted on having a French translation of the treaty to be treated equally with English version. Btw NATO and OTAN being anagrams is a coincidence

is backwards even

Re: A glitch in an online survey replaced the word 'yes' with 'forks'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Common with international treaties. The trade agreement known as USMCA in the USA is known as CUSMA in Canada and T-MEC (Treaty between Mexico, USA, and Canada) in Mexico. Countries almost always put themselves first.

And NATO is also OTAN, because France insisted on having a French translation of the treaty to be treated equally with English version. Btw NATO and OTAN being anagrams is a coincidence

Also related and because of the French: UTC. It was chosen as a concession between the logical English CUT or French TUC. Also the two are backwards, which I think is not really a coincidence due to word ordering rules in French.

Re: A glitch in an online survey replaced the word 'yes' with 'forks'

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post #53

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really? i thought that was a latin problem (sic) doesn’t spanish have sí? or is it something like portuguese where the verb conjugated to an affirmation is preferred over something like sí?

OP meant that "yes" is not a word in Spanish. The word "sí" is indeed the affirmative and it's used mostly the same as yes in English.

oh, I see now! that makes more sense when I reread it.

Re: A glitch in an online survey replaced the word 'yes' with 'forks'

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You're going to love YouTube automatically translating video titles to your geo-ip language... For the next project-manager-promotion-worthy feature, they also do auto-dubbing of the speech now!

> You're going to love YouTube automatically translating video titles to your geo-ip language... This is the worst feature of YouTube for me. Any idea how I can turn this off and show the original language title?

It's not automatic, channels opt into it. It's in fact a great way to identify spammy channels, because

1. They know YouTube's algorithm rewards them for it

2. They know it makes their stuff objectively worse

and the only channels who know that and still opt into it, are channels which have no shame and are pure view-bait trash.

So when I see a bork-Norwegian video title like "Du gjetter aldri hva som skjedde neste!" I hit "never recommend this channel".

Re: A glitch in an online survey replaced the word 'yes' with 'forks'

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> For some respondents, this prompted their browser to believe our survey was written in a language other than English (even though, again, it was in English) and ask if they wanted the page to be translated to English – or, we think, automatically try to translate the page to English. I goddamn hate this "feature" so much. Especially since it sometimes resets and then I have to find out where the fuck Google moved t…

I have a standard message for people who use machine translation on their "content":

"I know that machine translation exists. I know where to find it, should I need it. When you push it without asking, half the time I have to translate back from machine-junk to your language, in order to figure out what the hell you were trying to say. You make more work for me, not less. MACHINE TRANSLATION SHOULD ALWAYS BE OPT-IN."

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