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Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

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Re: Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

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Post by bitexploder »

api wrote: post #38
stego-tech wrote: post #12

Called it, again . Data sovereignty is the true trend of the next decade. Not Quantum, not AI, but the new multi-pole world order divesting from Americentric technologies and back into the sort of locally-grown economies that children of the Cold War would be familiar with. Local vendors serving local needs with a focus on regional, not global, scale and service. Us Cassandra types have been screaming for years that…

While I don't like the politics giving rise to this, de-globalization combined with the great social media unbundling and other trends means we might finally see decentralization be a major trend (outside of the cryptocurrency ghetto). Overall I think this is a good thing. It could mean the end of the monolithic closed SaaS era, which is the absolute worst possible model for software if you care about privacy or any…

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/google-cloud-make...

Just gonna leave this here.

Re: Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

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Post by SecretDreams »

api wrote: post #38
stego-tech wrote: post #12

Called it, again . Data sovereignty is the true trend of the next decade. Not Quantum, not AI, but the new multi-pole world order divesting from Americentric technologies and back into the sort of locally-grown economies that children of the Cold War would be familiar with. Local vendors serving local needs with a focus on regional, not global, scale and service. Us Cassandra types have been screaming for years that…

While I don't like the politics giving rise to this, de-globalization combined with the great social media unbundling and other trends means we might finally see decentralization be a major trend (outside of the cryptocurrency ghetto). Overall I think this is a good thing. It could mean the end of the monolithic closed SaaS era, which is the absolute worst possible model for software if you care about privacy or any…

There is tech decentralization and and manufacturing decentralization. Both are being treating equally right now; however, frankly, they probably shouldn't.

Data is proving to be valuable and should only be managed by very trusted allies - countries with similar ideals that truly are buddies.

Manufacturing, imo, makes a lot more sense to be spread based on strengths and weaknesses and the logistics benefits (localize supply chains closer to end product).

The current US admin has certainly exposed some of the pitfalls of being technologically reliant on America. Honestly, the main outcome of this will be lower economic/job prospects for American tech employees. It will soon be that having a branch of Microsoft in Europe is not quite the same as utilizing actual European countries.

I would really like to see this trend reversed, but I am afraid some of the damage is already done and will take a long time, if ever, to recover. It would not surprise me if some of this damage is intentional, since it will actually take power away from west coast tech - a population that tends to vote in one direction.

Re: Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

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Post by egorfine »

rad_gruchalski wrote: post #62
egorfine wrote: post #45

And replace with what, more regulations? Source: am a startup in the EU. The amount of bureaucracy is kafkaesque.

Where in the EU?

rn I'm in Poland, where things are still sane. I have tried in Germany as well, and that's just impossible.

Re: Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

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Post by Ragnarork »

baq wrote: post #66
api wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I don't like the politics giving rise to this, de-globalization combined with the great social media unbundling and other trends means we might finally see decentralization be a major trend (outside of the cryptocurrency ghetto). Overall I think this is a good thing. It could mean the end of the monolithic closed SaaS era, which is the absolute worst possible model for software if you care about privacy or any…

I personally dread the world in which physical supply chains get decentralized. A multi-polar world is a tinderbox.

> A multi-polar world is a tinderbox

Meanwhile, a unipolar is totally fine....

Re: Dutch Parliament: Time to ditch US tech for homegrown options

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Post by lurk2 »

52-6F-62 wrote: post #32
FlorisWie wrote: post #20

I am curious if this post will be deleted by the moderators, like the last time a discussion about European tech sovereignty was brought up on this American website.

It and anything mildly questioning the morality of the current moves being made by popular VCs including YCombinator.

I have seen multiple comments on Hacker News suggesting that CEOs should be guillotined.
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