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Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Post by rco8786 » Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 6:57 PM UTC

assimpleaspossi wrote: post #45

The Tesla, last I read about and test drove one, is a great car. Why tear at a company that makes a great car over anyone's political preferences? The phrase "shooting oneself in the foot" comes to mind. It makes no sense whatsoever.

> The phrase "shooting oneself in the foot" comes to mind.

It should come to mind for elon, not car buyers. He built a car company based on environmentalism that naturally appealed to people with environmental concerns and then pivoted to publicly insulting and denigrating those exact people.

It's not even really political. Elon isn't the first CEO to hold political values that differ from a majority of the company's customers. It's the fact that he goes out of his way to call his most likely customers retards.

Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Post by throwway120385 » Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 6:58 PM UTC

wood_spirit wrote: post #12

wnevets wrote: post #6

go tesla go broke doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

Should/would the government bail out Tesla were it to get into financial difficulties?

The government did it for GM in '08.

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Post by maximilianburke » Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 6:58 PM UTC

assimpleaspossi wrote: post #45

The Tesla, last I read about and test drove one, is a great car. Why tear at a company that makes a great car over anyone's political preferences? The phrase "shooting oneself in the foot" comes to mind. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Because the better Tesla does the more financial leverage that Elon Musk, a terrible person who is causing a great deal of harm, has.

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Post by milesrout » Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 6:58 PM UTC

llm_nerd wrote: post #54

boznz wrote: post #18

Might effect new buyers decisions I guess, but since about 99% of Tesla's were sold to green, left-leaning buyers, before the Elon hate-fest, I am not sure how targeting that group of people for your hatred is helping any "cause".

It's clearly intended to impact new buyers. Most of Musk's wealth is tied up in Tesla, and that funding allowed him to both buy an election and -- gestures broadly -- demonstrate convincingly that he is an absolutely reprehensible, garbage-bin of a human. The rich used to start ivy leagues and build libraries. This guy is cutting off funding for the poor and declaring himself, proudly, a "deadly threat" to people he…

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Re: Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Post by supportengineer » Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 6:58 PM UTC

boznz wrote: post #18

Might effect new buyers decisions I guess, but since about 99% of Tesla's were sold to green, left-leaning buyers, before the Elon hate-fest, I am not sure how targeting that group of people for your hatred is helping any "cause".

Thanks to Leon's salute, instead of buying 1-3 more Tesla's in my lifetime, I'm going back to plain gas powered Hondas. I'm choosing specifically non-turbo non-hybrid models. The American people, with their choice of President, have shown me they don't care about the present or the future. I'm sure their president will keep gas prices low. I don't see any reason for me to suffer for their benefit or anyone else's. The American people have chosen to doom us all, so why not just make life easy on myself.

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Post by n4r9 » Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 6:58 PM UTC

renewiltord wrote: post #44

wood_spirit wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump did literally say during that event that attacking Tesla showrooms was domestic terrorism.

It is unequivocally terrorism to participate in violence against civilians with the aim of causing political change. And it's domestic because it's here. It's definitionally correct.

Spray painting Teslas is not "violence against civilians". Even setting fire to them in a showroom is debatable if it's at night when no one's about.

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Post by jkestner » Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 6:59 PM UTC

TheAlchemist wrote: post #52

spiderfarmer wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also the stock was effectively a meme stock. So now the jig is up, the stock deflates like no other.

That's the funny thing here. In case of Musk, if those protests work and as you say 'the jig is up', he can go from the richest man on earth to bankrupt in a space of months. He is very 'cash poor' and has pledged a lot of Tesla shares as collateral to fund his other businesses. If Tesla is priced as an automaker (shares would be in the ±10-20$), Musk will be bankrupt.

Hence why they've now said they're a robot company. Yet any bullish targets now are more likely to be based on Musk awarding himself large government contracts than technical advancements.

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Post by genericone » Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 6:59 PM UTC

1shooner wrote: post #31

jeffwask wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has more to do with Tesla's being totaled in fender benders than the events of the last two months because the cost associated with replacing and fixing the cameras, electronics, and sensors. I've had two friends who had rear end accidents with their Teslas. One took over a year for his car to be returned in full working order after being rear ended at a stop sign. The other backed into a pole in a parking lot a…

>The other backed into a pole in a parking lot and they totaled out the car. That's ludicrous.

I struck a column in a multilevel garage while reversing out of a parking spot, my mistake completely, resulting in damage to the driver door, door hinge, mirror, and front quarter panel. Progressive considered the car totaled due to the cost/availability/labor to fix it. Unsure what the cost would be for a toyota or honda, but I was perplexed at the total loss of my still drivable car.

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Post by fishnchips » Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 6:59 PM UTC

renewiltord wrote: post #44

wood_spirit wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump did literally say during that event that attacking Tesla showrooms was domestic terrorism.

It is unequivocally terrorism to participate in violence against civilians with the aim of causing political change. And it's domestic because it's here. It's definitionally correct.

It’s against property, and political change is a vague aim, if any. In my book it’s just vandalism.

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Post by CobrastanJorji » Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 7:00 PM UTC

michpoch wrote: post #21

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely correct. But also there could be other reasons. The Mercedes cars offer SAE Level 3 certification ("you are officially not driving the car or watching the road, but we may demand you take over"), versus the much more dangerous Tesla Level 2 ("you are still responsible for driving and must constantly supervise but also the car will be doing it all for you, please don't stop paying attention at any point").…

> The Mercedes cars offer SAE Level 3 certification In an S-class. The comment above compares it to a MB A-class. Tesla produces no car in the MB S-class category.

Good catch.