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Re: Occupry your next lease to negotiate a better deal

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Post by colechristensen »

aegypti wrote: post #34
Carrok wrote: post #24

This is just adorable. To think that prospective renters have any negotiating power at all when the landlord typically (in my area anyway) receives triple digit numbers of applications.

Landlords in my area are begging for occupants and throwing move in promos at you when you walk in the door because the city allowed new housing to be built in excess after a massive spike in demand during the pandemic

My local landlords just leave buildings mostly empty on a hope and prayer that some day high rent will be desired again, and no doubt as the basis for some kind of tax scam or financing requirement.

The “move in promos” should be illegal as they use them as ways to strip you of rights and never lower rent for market prices.

Re: Occupry your next lease to negotiate a better deal

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Post by phonon »

nh23423fefe wrote: post #59
beefnugs wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh???? do the tiny amount of paperwork and get the double, he won't learn until he feels the pain, you are not helping anyone with this choice

But I dont want double in 3 years. I want what I'm owed today.

Small Claims Court would only take a few weeks

Re: Occupry your next lease to negotiate a better deal

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Post by kulahan »

nh23423fefe wrote: post #59
beefnugs wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh???? do the tiny amount of paperwork and get the double, he won't learn until he feels the pain, you are not helping anyone with this choice

But I dont want double in 3 years. I want what I'm owed today.

Curious what your retirement plan looks like…

Re: Occupry your next lease to negotiate a better deal

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Post by rcxdude »

kmeisthax wrote: post #42
Der_Einzige wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you kidding me? Most laws in liberal cities where this might be true are so tenant skewed that I downright don't want the risk of them doing the "squat and take 6+ months to be evicted but not before trashing the place" routine. No thank you. I'll be a landlord in some red state where I can rely on the power of rich capitalists to make sure that squatters spend their time in jail/prison instead of moving onto yet…

And this is why I don't touch the real estate market. Renting out housing is an inherently adversarial relationship; you either screw over your tenants or they screw over you. There's no fair exchange of value, there's just the scalper (e.g. Blackrock) who bought all the Pokemon cards^W^Whousing units and thus controls the supply, versus the tenant who wants to kick them in the shins. Personally, I don't think any of…

There are reasons for rental apart from "can't afford to buy". If you don't want to/can't commit to staying in one place for >5 years then rental is often a better option from sheer practicality. And if house prices aren't going through the roof because there's adequate supply, it's not necessarily a better financial option either.

(basically, renting isn't the problem, lack of supply of housing is, and abusive rental markets are a symptom)

Re: Occupry your next lease to negotiate a better deal

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Post by rcxdude »

gruez wrote: post #50
detourdog wrote: post #46

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I’m a small time landlord and I went the route of no leases. Everything is month to month. I think it’s a better deal for everyone. I collect first and last months rent at move in. I’m selective and do an internet search to see what I find. 3 years in and things are good. My first tenant is still living there I have had only 2 move out in less than a year. My thinking is that the relationship of providing housing is…

Contracts aren't for things are going smooth. They're for when things go wrong. What if a tenant is constantly late on their payments? What if they're excessively noisy? What if they claim you're not fixing things on time?

In a lot of places this is so heavily regulated the rental contracts are more of a record of the tenancy and rent than actually meaning anything for the agreement.

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Post by Terr_ »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #32
ziddoap wrote: post #13

Any time an AI product is advertised with something like "Legal Research Agents", a shiver goes up my spine. I see the testimonials (though, I don't put much faith in "Jane Doe" and "Mike Smith" testimonials), however I'm pretty sure in my area anyone who attempts to negotiate (especially based on an AI-built argument) will be told to pound sand. It's not a great market for renters here. Even blatantly illegal clause…

"Spine shivers" are one of the most extreme tells of AI slop. Not that I think you used AI to generate this - but such terms are now poisoned.

> extreme tells

It's not a "tell" if it has no predictive value. Most things popular in output are that way because they were already popular--or possibly hackneyed--in inputs. I'm pretty cynical when it comes to LLM overhyping, but mimicking forms and styles written text is one of the things they actually do well.

Even if you see something odd like "adumbration" (vague foreshadowing) you're still stuck distinguishing between (A) a human trying to sound a certain way and reaching for a thesaurus vs (B) someone setting up an LLM prompt to try to mimic the first kind of person.

Re: Occupry your next lease to negotiate a better deal

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Post by bdangubic »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #26
Carrok wrote: post #24

This is just adorable. To think that prospective renters have any negotiating power at all when the landlord typically (in my area anyway) receives triple digit numbers of applications.

> to think that prospective renters have any negotiating power at all when the landlord typically (in my area anyway) receives triple digit numbers of applications For new-lease negotiation, you're right. For renewal, in my experience, New York City landlords happily made small edits if given a good reason. (While the larger companies usually can't change their boilerplate documents, they're almost always fine adding…

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