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The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by josephcsible »

dartos wrote: post #41
ksec wrote: post #34

I disliked Google ever since they started their "Do No Evil" PR campaign. For as long as I remember I was the extreme rare few on internet against them. And I also disliked Chrome. Especially the direction of the web they are using Chrome to push forward. And I also disliked Electron. But I am against DOJ forcing Google to sell off Chrome. Especially when most of Chrome is open sourced. I think this is just plain wro…

Electron isn’t a google product… Also why bring up disliking something as though you were ahead of the curve only to stop short of actually being in favor of taking action?

> Electron isn’t a google product…

Sure, but it's exacerbating the Blink monoculture anyway.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by pjmlp »

3vidence wrote: post #70

(Googler opinions are my own, don't work on chrome) Chrome has just been a better product for the last 10 to 15 years. Every other company has just failed to make a good browser because they lack the incentives to do so (have gone back and forth as a Firefox user). The only competitive browsers are those already built on chrome or safari. I'm not personally a big fan of Safari but it's bigger issue is that it is only…

I am sure folks at Microsoft were saying the same of IE 5 and 6, as I was around when it took over.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by 3vidence »

keepamovin wrote: post #44
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This is all probably too vague and unspecified for you lot...but it is just an idea. Forgive me for being blunt, but what idea? If the question is who is supposed to fund Chromium and Firefox going forward then you haven't actually offered any ideas.

It's okay. Yes, it is just an idea, specifically of making it public. I think the government should pay for it. What do you think?

Agree with another comment that I absolutely do not want the US government running chrome at this point.

Maybeee the EU but we are talking about an American ruling.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by sneak »

3vidence wrote: post #70

(Googler opinions are my own, don't work on chrome) Chrome has just been a better product for the last 10 to 15 years. Every other company has just failed to make a good browser because they lack the incentives to do so (have gone back and forth as a Firefox user). The only competitive browsers are those already built on chrome or safari. I'm not personally a big fan of Safari but it's bigger issue is that it is only…

I’m confused, as a firefox daily driver, why is firefox not a good browser? Or are we discounting it because it is funded by Google?

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by 3vidence »

pjmlp wrote: post #72
3vidence wrote: post #70

(Googler opinions are my own, don't work on chrome) Chrome has just been a better product for the last 10 to 15 years. Every other company has just failed to make a good browser because they lack the incentives to do so (have gone back and forth as a Firefox user). The only competitive browsers are those already built on chrome or safari. I'm not personally a big fan of Safari but it's bigger issue is that it is only…

I am sure folks at Microsoft were saying the same of IE 5 and 6, as I was around when it took over.

If I remember my history Microsoft was never actually forced to stop integrating IE in their product.

The only reason it stopped being the #1 browser is that Chrome came out and was better...

Even though people had to go out of their way to download on all computers

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by floydnoel »

keepamovin wrote: post #44
fauigerzigerk wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This is all probably too vague and unspecified for you lot...but it is just an idea. Forgive me for being blunt, but what idea? If the question is who is supposed to fund Chromium and Firefox going forward then you haven't actually offered any ideas.

It's okay. Yes, it is just an idea, specifically of making it public. I think the government should pay for it. What do you think?

so every 4 years a new group can shift the priorities completely and what should be a technical challenge becomes a political one, dominated by those with money. I'm sure before long you would be required to input your government ID to use it. I am not sure a worse idea is even possible.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by zdragnar »

pjmlp wrote: post #72
3vidence wrote: post #70

(Googler opinions are my own, don't work on chrome) Chrome has just been a better product for the last 10 to 15 years. Every other company has just failed to make a good browser because they lack the incentives to do so (have gone back and forth as a Firefox user). The only competitive browsers are those already built on chrome or safari. I'm not personally a big fan of Safari but it's bigger issue is that it is only…

I am sure folks at Microsoft were saying the same of IE 5 and 6, as I was around when it took over.

I would love for something to trounce chrome the way it did IE, and even FF (which was so slow chrome felt lightning fast by comparison).

I'm not optimistic that it'll happen, but I'd still like to see it.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Post by ttoinou »

Springtime wrote: post #8

Regardless of what happens to Chrome per se it's who is involved with pushing for major controversial changes in Chromium that matters. Manifest v3 and Web Integrity API are prominent examples of Google's team shaping how all Chromium based browsers will be, regardless of pushback (though they relented with the latter for now).

Can’t any motivated group of developers fork chromium and push their own agenda ?
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