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Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by bryanhogan »

jisnsm wrote: post #25
weberer wrote: post #11

>To ensure users stay safe on the platform, we explicitly disallow: >Misinformation & Conspiracy Theories >Spreading false or misleading information that can cause harm to individuals or society is prohibited. This includes conspiracy theories that have been debunked or lack credible evidence. Why? That sounds so dumb to waste resources policing it.

It’s really fucking boring how every platform that hosts speech tries to nudge you in their direction these days.

No platform can allow you to 100% say whatever you want, just how it has limit to what it can enforce. Every platforms has to balance this fact. It is impossible to enforce clear borders on this as well, as human interaction is endlessly complex.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by devsda »

diggan wrote: post #40
vr46 wrote: post #35

How is open-source supposed to compete without access to Apple's certificates? If you are constantly forced to override the warnings about unsigned software, assuming your system even allows you in the first place, how much friction before less technical users give up? Code signing is good, I like it, I approve, but it is a big obstacle for me personally and others who cannot afford Apple Developer Credentials.

> How is open-source supposed to compete without access to Apple's certificates? Does the license of your application somehow prevent you from following whatever Apple wants to do regarding signing? I think there are plenty of apps/games out there built on FOSS technology yet they're still signed and run like anything else signed on macOS, but maybe I remember incorrectly?

It might be nothing technical.

Some developers avoid paying for the Apple dev program on principle. Joining it could be seen as supporting Apple's attempt at building walled gardens.

There's also the operational challenges for open source like who will sign-up and how to secure or maintain the signing keys etc. It brings in lot of friction.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by bryanhogan »

peterjaap wrote: post #8

So you have the chance to redesign Discord and you decide to stick with the unicorn-puking emoji-littered eye-scorching UX/UI garbage that Discord is? Interesting.

I think Discord, especially when it was new, had amazing UX and UI. Nowadays it definitely became bloated and new features don't integrate that well into the existing UI, but it is still on a perfectly useable level, currently.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by IceDane »

RobotToaster wrote: post #36

The self hosting instructions aren't that friendly imo.

I'm sorry, but what??

The self-hosting guide even walks you through setting up the VPS on a specific platform. What more do you want? One could even argue that if you need your hand held through setting up a VPS, you probably shouldn't be self-hosting anything, so from that viewpoint, these instructions are a lot more friendly than they had to be.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by BoredPositron »

diggan wrote: post #40
vr46 wrote: post #35

How is open-source supposed to compete without access to Apple's certificates? If you are constantly forced to override the warnings about unsigned software, assuming your system even allows you in the first place, how much friction before less technical users give up? Code signing is good, I like it, I approve, but it is a big obstacle for me personally and others who cannot afford Apple Developer Credentials.

> How is open-source supposed to compete without access to Apple's certificates? Does the license of your application somehow prevent you from following whatever Apple wants to do regarding signing? I think there are plenty of apps/games out there built on FOSS technology yet they're still signed and run like anything else signed on macOS, but maybe I remember incorrectly?

It’s the 99 bucks argument every time…

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by BoredPositron »

gunalx wrote: post #10
mogoh wrote: post #7

So, how does it compares to matrix/element?

I was wondering whether this was just a matrix client the entire front page. I dont see why you wouldn't utilize the matrix ecosystem with an already usable userbase when trying to recreate discord. If i would want something opensource i would also want something decentralized.

Because matrix isn’t the savior everyone makes it out to be it’s rather the opposite.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by INTPenis »

lordofgibbons wrote: post #47

The biggest selling point of Discord is its insane network effects. There are servers for libraries/frameworks, languages, ai/ml, math, whatever you can think of. And a lot of the adjacent ones will cross-link scheduled events and messages from other servers. I'm really hoping for an alternative. I'm always weary of en-shitification whenever a single platform wins all the users.. like what has happened to Reddit.

I think the biggest selling point is clearly the community.

Without the community revolt.chat is just another Mattermost or Matrix.

Discord is popular for one reason and one reason only, all the young people are there. The secret is how did they get popular with young kids? Well they offered a free service obviously, just like Google, just like Facebook.

I've been trying to explain this to a friend recently. You're only on Discord because they took a huge loss for many years with the hopes of building up a massive database of users.

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