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Re: The owner of ip4.me/ip6.me, Kevin Loch, has died

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How so? Getting your public/external IP does not seem possible behind a NAT without an external service.

You can use dig: dig +short -4 myip.opendns.com @resolver1.opendns.com (still an external service, but not reliant on a website)

That's just another protocol in the end (DNS vs. HTTP), or am I missing something?

DNS also runs a higher risk of being cached or mangled somewhere along the way by middleboxes. HTTPS avoids that problem.

Re: The owner of ip4.me/ip6.me, Kevin Loch, has died

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How so? Getting your public/external IP does not seem possible behind a NAT without an external service.

No idea. All I can tell you is that it works and if I need to hard code a IP check like this then I’d rather rely on a big player like Google or cloudflare ns than someone’s project site

Not sure if I'd trust an undocumented Google feature without any SLA more, to be honest. Rumor has it that Google have discontinued a service or two before.

Re: The owner of ip4.me/ip6.me, Kevin Loch, has died

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> In Kevin’s own words on kevinloch.com: “I am also an amateur physicist, programmer, photographer, independent film producer (at WTF Productions) and AFOL (Adult Fan of Lego).” Kevin was also passionate about any and all things space related: the sky, the stars, and beyond; trying to find the meaning in how things work, why they work, and what would make them work better. His latest passion after moving back to Rest…

Also you can watch his memorial service here: https://www.youtube.com/live/YbnPeUgHGu8?t=1271

"To honor Kevin’s “You be you” attitude, a “Come As You Are” Memorial Service will be held on Wednesday, July 3, 2024, at 11:00 a.m. at Fairfax Church of Christ. 3901 Rugby Road, Fairfax, VA 22033. A reception will follow at the church where you will be able to assemble your own Lego tribute to Kevin to take home. Lego bricks will be provided."

"In lieu of traditional flowers, you may bring or send Lego flowers. Those assembled before the service will be part of the Memorial display. Assembly space will be provided for any unassembled flowers. Traditional and Lego flowers can be sent to the church 7/2 between 9-4."

Re: The owner of ip4.me/ip6.me, Kevin Loch, has died

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Also you can watch his memorial service here: https://www.youtube.com/live/YbnPeUgHGu8?t=1271

I’m not anti-religion in any way, but this left a really bad taste in my mouth. Loch’s nephew (the pastor who led the service) kept saying that Loch wasn’t religious. Then he’d go straight back to talking about Christ, and reminiscing about times when Loch had participated in Christian ritual! It’s one thing to volunteer your religious organization as a venue for a memorial, even for someone who wasn’t religious. It’…

Maybe Loch wouldn't have minded? I'm not religious, but I don't really care if I were memorialized with a religious service. My belief is that service is more for the people left behind than the one who died anyway.

Re: The owner of ip4.me/ip6.me, Kevin Loch, has died

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We are experimenting with some design choices as we try to highlight all the IP metadata we have and move towards being an "internet data" company instead of just an IP location company. I highly recommend you check out the page: https://ipinfo.io/myip I understand the data we have for your IP address is not front and center anymore. We have gone through several iterations of designs for our homepage, so if you have…

"I don’t want anyone to see our address and opening hours without also reading through our values, our mission statement, and board of directors"

It's a service that shows visitors their own address and metadata about it. Seems fair to not want to provide that for free without some advertisement for the paid version or the company?

Re: The owner of ip4.me/ip6.me, Kevin Loch, has died

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"I don’t want anyone to see our address and opening hours without also reading through our values, our mission statement, and board of directors"

It's a service that shows visitors their own address and metadata about it. Seems fair to not want to provide that for free without some advertisement for the paid version or the company?

Absolutely. Actively degrading the user experience might have the opposite effect, though.

Re: The owner of ip4.me/ip6.me, Kevin Loch, has died

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ip4.me and related websites actually inspired me to create a more-whimsical version of the website, which I call ipkitten.com. Not only do you get your IP address, User Agent, and approximate geolocation, but you also get a kitten GIF!

It also works from the command line, like this:

  $ curl ipkitten.com
  4.2.2.2
I am sure that Kevin has saved engineers and other IT people tons of headache and time with his simple, helpful, and ad-free tools.

Re: The owner of ip4.me/ip6.me, Kevin Loch, has died

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No idea. All I can tell you is that it works and if I need to hard code a IP check like this then I’d rather rely on a big player like Google or cloudflare ns than someone’s project site

What command line do you use?

dig whoami.cloudflare ch txt @1.1.1.1 +short
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