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Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

#71

Why is it "music for developers"? I was expecting one of those Lofi music videos designed to enhance concentration or similar. These are typically instrumentals, ostensibly because they are less distracting, something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QY2_8704o

it's because the thing we're launching today is an API for developers to use. If you want instrumental type stuff you should check out my bossa nova channel: https://sonauto.ai/radio

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

#72

I'm not going to comment on the technical side of things, which is way beyond my technical comprehensions skills, and I'm sure it required a considerable amount of brain, time and energy to reach similar results. But music production and distribution is (actually, was ) my home turf, so here's my two cents on the topic: I've already heard music qualitatively on par with the tracks available on your demo page. I've he…

> I can't concieve even the flimsiest of reasons why anyone would ever listen to (or license/sync/track/ ) any of those generated songs once the novelty of "music made by the AI" is gone. Easy: Independent/single-dev operations needing some quick background music for a project (game, whatever)

Also: People (especially kids, students, etc) who want to make music but don't have the technical expertise to (yet?).

Obviously these tools don't do everything necessary to make great music, but the barrier of entry to making music is being lowered, and the quality floor is being raised -- and that'll result in a lot more would-be "musicians"[0] creating music that wouldn't otherwise exist[1].

[0] I leave the argument of whether these generative musicians count as "real" musicians to the Scotsmen in the audience.

[1] Bonus question: does art still hold value if no one sees it?

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

#73

I'm not going to comment on the technical side of things, which is way beyond my technical comprehensions skills, and I'm sure it required a considerable amount of brain, time and energy to reach similar results. But music production and distribution is (actually, was ) my home turf, so here's my two cents on the topic: I've already heard music qualitatively on par with the tracks available on your demo page. I've he…

I have mixed feelings on AI music. When i make music, it's relaxing, it's fun, maybe 3 or 4 people listen to it. Then it kinda just sits on Soundcloud. One of my partners did enjoy my music though...

AI music for the sake of just having it in the background removes that human element. It's just more stuff. To be fair, like you said, making generic music isn't anything new. But everything is turning into this. Games are using AI generated music which isn't , by definition, able to try anything new, AI art which is just reguritated by other artists.

The enshitification of Spotify is here. Why pay artist 100$ for 500k plays when you can just push AI music and pay 1$ for every 500k plays. As is music( really any entertainment) is a horrible way to make money.

So I guess I'll just keep working on my beats, with Maschine( the only software that keeps me on Windows!), and sharing them with a few people every now and then.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

#75

I'm not going to comment on the technical side of things, which is way beyond my technical comprehensions skills, and I'm sure it required a considerable amount of brain, time and energy to reach similar results. But music production and distribution is (actually, was ) my home turf, so here's my two cents on the topic: I've already heard music qualitatively on par with the tracks available on your demo page. I've he…

The benefit of AI generated music is that you can make it for yourself. The goal shouldn't be to get other people to listen to it. It's very personal and that should be the end goal.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

#76

I'm not going to comment on the technical side of things, which is way beyond my technical comprehensions skills, and I'm sure it required a considerable amount of brain, time and energy to reach similar results. But music production and distribution is (actually, was ) my home turf, so here's my two cents on the topic: I've already heard music qualitatively on par with the tracks available on your demo page. I've he…

Can humans generate a song based on custom lyrics and style in a matter of minutes?

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

#77
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the consumer stuff: It's fun, and IMO that's enough. Not every song has to be peak artistic quality pushing the world forward, sometimes it's enough to bring a smile to a friend's face by making a song about them. If you think their art is slop you shouldn't have to listen to it (IMO Spotify et al should have an optional "no AI music" filter for now). For the API: I think this could be integrated into artists wor…

the reason a song from a friend makes you happy is directly related to the effort behind it, this is totally meaningless.

that's just your opinion.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

#78
post #61

On one hand this is impressive, and I've been wondering when something like this would appear. On the other hand, I am -- like others here have expressed -- saddened by the impact this has on real musicians. Music is human, music theory is deeply mathematical and fascinating -- "solving" it with a big hammer like generative AI is rather unsatisfying. The other very real aspect here is "training data" has to come from…

Anyone with ears can find music satisfying. You don't need an artist's backstory or blessing for that. By all means use slow AI to get the same point fast AI can get to, but don't ask me to value it differently.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

#79
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my opinion training on all music is no more theft than Taylor Swift listening to the radio growing up (as long as we don't regurgitate existing songs which would be bad and useless anyway). I think an alternative legal interpretation where all of humanity's musical knowledge and history are controlled by three megacorporations (UMG/Sony/Warner) would be kinda depressing. If the above is true we might as well shutd…

The difference being that a musician being influenced by other musicians still has to work to develop the skills necessary to distill those influences into a final product, and colors that output with their own subjective experiences and taste. This feels like a conveniently naive interpretation to justify stealing artists' work and using it to create derivative generative slop. The final line in your comment is pret…

Law should be considered to be artificial rules optimized for the collective good of society.

What's the worst that can happen if we allow unregulated AI training on existing music? Musician as a job won't exist anymore lest for the greatest artists. But it makes creating music much more accessible to billions of people. Are they good music? Let the market decide. And people still make music because the creative process is enjoyable.

The animus towards AI generated music deeply stems from job security. I work in software and I see it is more likely that AI can be eventually able to replace software devs. I may lose my job if that happens. But I don't care. Find another career. Humanity needs to progress instead of stagnating for the sake of a few interest groups.

Re: Show HN: Sonauto API – Generative music for developers

#80

I'm not going to comment on the technical side of things, which is way beyond my technical comprehensions skills, and I'm sure it required a considerable amount of brain, time and energy to reach similar results. But music production and distribution is (actually, was ) my home turf, so here's my two cents on the topic: I've already heard music qualitatively on par with the tracks available on your demo page. I've he…

Can humans generate a song based on custom lyrics and style in a matter of minutes?

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