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Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]

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Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]

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Why is a SaaS locking out a fairly high-profile customer like this, and publicly airing B2B accounts-receivable drama, to the customer's community? How big can the bill be, for something you could run on a 20 year-old PC? Given the strange coincidence with the social media outrage over TOU fiasco, I don't know who to be scratching my puzzled head at here.

Totally agree but at least I don't know more about how long this has been developing for and what attempts have been made at curing it - if this is indeed the intention... There's a thread here suggesting the idea that it's a stunt to get extort more money from donors. While I wouldn't go quite as far, I think it's undeniable that there's a rift between long time users of Mozilla products and their current strategies…

Exactly.

I feel a good desire to fork the browser (ff or one of its forks) to be able build it for myself with a set of debloat patches. Just to avoid worrying about tracking and the "sell your data" stuff.

Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]

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Please don't read too much into this ;) We moved from self-hosted Discourse to hosted Discourse. The transfer was initiated late from the Mozilla side (my bad) and the automatic system from Discourse kicked in.

Thanks for the explanation! Is there any chance to move away from the Discourse? It's a bit too slow (on any page opening), but the biggest issue is its hostile habit of catching the browser "find in page" hotkey (replacing the local find with the remote site search).

I hate that feature with an intensity that's hard to describe.

I know you can press it again or something but for the love of $deity don't fuck with the defaults.

That said I'm equally angry my browser so happily allows this.

Sure if it's a proper web application like OnShape then sure, override default key bindings, but ask me first and remember my choice. If I say no then just don't feed those keystrokes to the webpage.

Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]

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Because if you don’t, they might go somewhere else.

Losing a non-paying customer does not sound like a bad thing.

If it's the first time in 10 years and they're in your upper tier, then perhaps it is.

Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]

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Why is a SaaS locking out a fairly high-profile customer like this, and publicly airing B2B accounts-receivable drama, to the customer's community? How big can the bill be, for something you could run on a 20 year-old PC? Given the strange coincidence with the social media outrage over TOU fiasco, I don't know who to be scratching my puzzled head at here.

It's a pretty good way to get the bill paid to be honest I also run a B2B SaaS and I have found that over time the customers who I think are going to be terrible for paying, typically tend to be very good at paying and the customers who I think are going to be very good for paying (in that they have good standing in the community in things like that) tend to be pretty bad at paying on time (and with NET30 and all) Ul…

+1 to this.

My employer can be really bad at paying NET30, especially on fluctuating "pay for what you use" bills due to all the bureaucracy. Since it's not a fixed amount it can't be rubber stamped by anyone... And dear lord help you if you issue an invoice followed by credits separately...

We always pay the bill, but the purchasing employee has to review it (they're the only ones that can evaluate the claimed usage), then the department head has to approve it, then department finance processes it.. the division finance has to then rubber stamp it... Then the controller had to release the funds.

I see notices all the time where we're ~3-5 days late (often times the money has already been sent, but hasn't hit the sellers account yet)

Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]

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You work for Mozilla?

Yes

Please tell guys who is responsible for js engine to fix handling of large cookies that google is using to slow down youtube on firefox. It is impossible to watch youtube logged in because of that. God bless you sir.

Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]

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I'm totally with you on wanting to get paid in a timely manner. (I used to do NET 10 for consulting invoices.) But you'd do a courtesy call before cutting off a B2B customer? Even just to make sure they got the bill, and that a payment they made hadn't mistakenly not been credited. Which would be an opportunity for an immediate funds transfer or CC charge, if necessary to keep the site up. (Also an opportunity for th…

They will tell you it must have slipped though the cracks, and that they'll get right on it, but no payment will materialize.

That doesn’t mean you get to skip that step though

Re: Mozilla site down due to "overdue hosting payments" [fixed]

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Please tell guys who is responsible for js engine to fix handling of large cookies that google is using to slow down youtube on firefox. It is impossible to watch youtube logged in because of that. God bless you sir.

I really only use Firefox and I’ve never had an issue with YouTube logged in and I use it a lot.
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