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Paxlovid: You'd have expected more

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Re: Paxlovid: You'd have expected more

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Which part of that are you having trouble with? We have two different age ranges, one of them separately measured with and without treatment, with the same outcomes across all groupings.

Apologies. My dyslexia hit me. You are right and I was wrong

Re: Paxlovid: You'd have expected more

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Paxlovid? You'd have expected more people to be doing more to not get infected & reinfected by COVID, and trying to stop the spread. But here we are. 5 years in.

What do you propose? Continue social distancing and masking? About the only middle ground is masking in medical settings and crowded, non-social spaces. I guess vaccination rates are low, but that should be a good thing for people who are vaccinated.

Indoor air filtering might help?

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I took Paxlovid twice. Horrible bitter taste, but kept the symptoms at bay. No long covid or persisting brain fog unlike some of my friends. Tested negative by the end of the treatment. My fiancé didn't catch it from my while I isolated. Derek doesn't have to take Paxlovid next time, but I will.

How doy ou know it kept your symptoms at bay? Plenty of people don't get long Covid, why were you sure you'd get it if you didn't take paxlovid? Same with brain fog?

It's interesting how religiously "correlation is not causation" is repeated here - except when it's about personal anecdotes.

Re: Paxlovid: You'd have expected more

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GoodRX, Paxlovid ranges from $1,497 at CVS to $1,696 at Costco. Fuck me! Only for rich muppets then? In my local Boots chemist Aspirin is about £2.00 for 28 tablets. Paxlovid is a combination of 2 medicines called nirmatrelvir and ritonavir. Nirmatrelvir stops the virus from growing and spreading, and ritonavir helps nirmatrelvir from being broken down in your body long enough to do its job. Fuck me! again.

for poor people like me, the cost made me hesitate, then the best timing of taking it was gone.

so if banning this med is the only way to make the world more equal, I'm all for it.

Re: Paxlovid: You'd have expected more

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I am in my 70s and within a few hours of taking PAXLOVID my symptoms went away. I took it the first time I had Covid. When I had Covid a second last year I decided to suffer the symptoms without PAXLOVID so I felt crappy for three or four days.

I really think treating Covid for older people is a very different than treating young people.

That said, when I took PAXLOVID my daughter, son in law and grandson had the same Covid strain I did at the same time and their symptoms were very bad and lasted ten days to over two weeks.

Re: Paxlovid: You'd have expected more

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I took Paxlovid twice. Horrible bitter taste, but kept the symptoms at bay. No long covid or persisting brain fog unlike some of my friends. Tested negative by the end of the treatment. My fiancé didn't catch it from my while I isolated. Derek doesn't have to take Paxlovid next time, but I will.

I had Covid once. No drugs, no vaccine (don’t jump me it wasn’t available yet). No long covid or brain fog. Sleepiness, loss of taste, flu symptoms for 5 days. Completely better in 10 days.

Anecdotes aren’t usually helpful for effectiveness testing. My experience can vary greatly between my neighbor even with identical demographics and characteristics.

Re: Paxlovid: You'd have expected more

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I took paxlovid and still got hospitalized with pneumonia and I’m 35. it was probably the worst week in my entire life. Paxlovid is so bitter, it actually lingers on your mouth for a few days after you take your last dose. It’s absolutely horrible. But maybe it helped me, the pneumonia was a light one so after the hospital it took me like 2-3 weeks and everything was kinda normal. If it helped me, it’s kinda sad that it costs like ~1000€ in Germany, of course my medi care paid everything.

Re: Paxlovid: You'd have expected more

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For most people now, the whole reason to take Paxlovid is the avoid long covid. The hospitalization risk is less of a concern. The article points out at the end that this drug has shown evidence of avoiding long covid.

But only in high-risk patients, it should be noted.

No, any type of patient can get long covid. I suspect a heathy adult gets it from a combination of bad luck and/or not resting enough, doing too much, etc. post infection.

Re: Paxlovid: You'd have expected more

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I took Paxlovid twice. Horrible bitter taste, but kept the symptoms at bay. No long covid or persisting brain fog unlike some of my friends. Tested negative by the end of the treatment. My fiancé didn't catch it from my while I isolated. Derek doesn't have to take Paxlovid next time, but I will.

How doy ou know it kept your symptoms at bay? Plenty of people don't get long Covid, why were you sure you'd get it if you didn't take paxlovid? Same with brain fog?

Yeah you can read very similar anecdotes from people who took ivermectin. This is why controlled experiments are so important.

Re: Paxlovid: You'd have expected more

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But only in high-risk patients, it should be noted.

No, any type of patient can get long covid. I suspect a heathy adult gets it from a combination of bad luck and/or not resting enough, doing too much, etc. post infection.

I think the comment you’re replying to was just noting that, according to Derek’s read on it, paxlovid may not reduce the risk of long covid in low-risk patients.
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