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A secret poker game you can play on the subway

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Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

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Right so, you don’t need to talk to them. If you guess wrong about their gender identity, there’s no risk you insult them. That’s the difference.

I wasn't trying to be trans-phobic. I was just wondering how you are supposed to resolve it when you think you have 4 kings and the person you are playing against thinks that two of them are queens.

That’s a fair question. The game sorta suffers from a lot of ambiguity, like with the elderly. I think I just misread you because of that guy who responded to you.

Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

#72
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The card games listed have the information aspect in common. The slot machine is not a Poker, it's a poker-themed slot machine and the game people play with it is called losing money.

“Poker is a family of _comparing_ card games in which players _wager_ over which hand is best according to that specific game’s rules.” — [WikiPedia]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poker ) I don’t think I would have gone for that definition, but now that I see it, it sums up everything I’ve ever known “Poker” to be. The game is won by comparing cards you have left (meaning that Rummy, Go Fish, or Bridge are different…

I totally agree, but I stand by the opinion that imperfect-information bit is so essential that it's simply assumed (it's, naturally, not specific to just poker card games, though). If you come to the table with your own stack of cards to draw from, it's very likely going to end badly for you, depending on how transparent you're with the matter.

Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

#73

I prefer not to play a game that requires assuming anyone's gender or age But its a cute idea

Aw I feel like it’s perfectly harmless in this instance, right? You don’t need to talk to the people, so there’s no risk of insulting them.

Agreed, but you risk normalizing it for yourself, and the partner playing it with you.

I don't think it's particularly harmful for someone to play it, but I would rather set the bar higher for myself.

Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

#74

The most obvious issues with this is that the game boils down to predicting passenger patterns, but you're still just comparing two RNGs, which is one of the worst kinds of games. I also don't think this can be called Poker, really. Poker is an imperfect information game, where your hand tells you some information about your opponents' hands. It would be interesting to read HN's ideas on how you can simulate the shar…

The other day I was playing a game that let me project fire from my finger tips and fly. It was a lot of fun, but in reality it made no logical sense...

> The most obvious issues with...

... your comment is that you're trying to analyse everything instead of just having fun. Not everything is a math' problem. It's OK to have fun things that don't make sense. I don't think the author is trying to create a perfect gaming experience. I think the author is just trying to have fun.

Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

#75
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There should probably be a way to play this that doesn't rely on assuming the gender of someone you see in public.

Agreed. I posted the same thing but unfortunately got downvoted.

I don't imagine this game can cause any direct harm, but assuming someone's gender is not something people have a habit of doing.

Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

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post #74

The most obvious issues with this is that the game boils down to predicting passenger patterns, but you're still just comparing two RNGs, which is one of the worst kinds of games. I also don't think this can be called Poker, really. Poker is an imperfect information game, where your hand tells you some information about your opponents' hands. It would be interesting to read HN's ideas on how you can simulate the shar…

The other day I was playing a game that let me project fire from my finger tips and fly. It was a lot of fun, but in reality it made no logical sense... > The most obvious issues with... ... your comment is that you're trying to analyse everything instead of just having fun. Not everything is a math' problem. It's OK to have fun things that don't make sense. I don't think the author is trying to create a perfect gami…

I'm just pondering on how to change the game so it becomes more fun for me. Coincidentally, I know I can have a great time playing a game commonly known as Poker, so it's natural to compare the two.

I also expect HN to have lots more people interested in game theory and game design than any random place so it seemed appropriate to share and invite people to throw ideas about (which is also kind of fun).

Let's have fun any way we can!

Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

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Is human behaviour not predicable enough for you? I bet passengers are more likely to congregate on the side that the door enters/exits, etc

You can definitely select a new hand each station by making inappropriate gestures or sounds.

I was waiting for the author to discuss actual strategies, like subtly herding new passengers toward a seat, sitting in your own row so you can get up when the right person comes along and graciously offer them your seat, saying "I think there's some spilled Sprite there" if the wrong person attempts to sit down (only if there are plenty of seats left, of course), etc.

Other ideas?

Re: A secret poker game you can play on the subway

#80
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> Selecting a row near the doors can increase the likelihood of passenger turnover I don't think that's true. People get off when they get to their destination whether or not it is easy to reach the door, and sit in available spaces.

People that only have a few stations to go tend to sit closer to doors. But also, now that I think about it, this may only be caused by french metro layouts, I'm from France too and this fact seems true to me. If your train is only a long corridor with seats on the edges, the "difficulty" of getting to/from a door is almost the same everywhere. But in the french metro you have foldable seats right next to the doors,…

I mean, I totally agree, but I assumed you would play during high traffic when all seats are taken. The rules don't even say what you do with a non-full hand.
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