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Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#71

Companies have hijacked the open source concept to mean downloadable blob and we follow them as I see in the comments. It’s a real shame.

I remember the NVIDIA Linux kernel binary blob driver discussions from the early-mid 2000s. Who knew we had an open source driver all along...

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#72
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's already clear that these are going to be commoditized and the free / open source versions will be good enough to capture enough of the value that the remaining players will not be Facebook-level monopolies on the space

Apparently it isn't clear to the investors valuing OpenAI at >300B. Possibly they're betting that the ecosystem & integrations around their models will generate a certain amount of lock-in or otherwise make the difference in a close-to-even field

Investors thought someone renting office space was going to revolutionize the world and valued their company 50B.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#73

Grok 3 at the top of Chatboat Arena with 1400, and the model will continue to improve as it trains more.

And DeepSeek is just 3% behind. It seems in that benchmark all LLMs perform well and top is formed within some statistical error.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#74

Grok 3 at the top of Chatboat Arena with 1400, and the model will continue to improve as it trains more.

And Anthropic not even in the top 10 ...

I keep hearing about Claude's impressive coding skills (compared to its benches) yet, not evident for me (I use the web version, not cline). Compared to 4o it's not that great.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

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Looks impressive. OpenAI and Sam Altman might be cooked if its as capable as advertised.

Every competitors were done when Claude 3.5 was released, every competitors were done when o1 was released, the entire West was done when DeepSeek was released, the world was done when Mistral Le Chat was released, I guess now it's time for the solar system to be done because of Grok3. Let's see what new model dominates the galaxy next week.

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#76

They will open-source Grok 2 when Grok 3 comes out. Also it seems like it will be paywalled - disappointing considering DeepSeek-R1 is free and open source.

Yeah not sure what profit these guys think they'll be able to squeeze out of these models with open source and free clearly being 95% as good

Exclusive contracts with the defense industry or similar deals?

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#77

Companies have hijacked the open source concept to mean downloadable blob and we follow them as I see in the comments. It’s a real shame.

Better a downloadable blob than a non-downloadable one

Parent doesn't argue about that. How is this relevant?

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Doesn’t OpenAI claim their work will lead to artificial general intelligence? That seems like a much steeper gradient to climb. Hype is the fuel that bootstraps fortunes in techtopia.

> Hype is the fuel that bootstraps fortunes in techtopia.

Hype is the fuel that builds fortunes at the expense of the greater fool. See WeWork.

Arguably none of the magnificent seven was built on hype, other than Tesla (and even there, not sure it was).

Re: Grok3 Launch [video]

#80

Companies have hijacked the open source concept to mean downloadable blob and we follow them as I see in the comments. It’s a real shame.

this is correct. "open source" means everything required to recreate from scratch and improve. not "here's a massive binary, an interpreter script and permission."
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