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Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Windows 11 is a massive nothing-burger. The only annoyance is for those who are stuck on older hardware without TPM.

As for everyone else, it's almost identical to 10 aside from one minor graphical change. Personally I don't get why so many are opposed to it.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Steam users are more likely to be on win 10 than others because they often spend more money on gaming rigs than people buying web browser machine. With the hardware requirements of win 11 (tpm, others) many gamers will not want to throw out their working machines to satisfy Microsoft's hardware demand.

If you are a "serious" gamer and have a machine that doesn't support Windows 11, you are probably considering an upgrade anyways.

Such a machine will probably not be able to run the latest AAA titles at a decent framerate, it may run smaller games, but so will a recent "web browser machine". The iGPUs in these machines are starting to get pretty good, probably as good as good as a 10 year old gaming rig but with much better energy efficiency.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I have a gaming computer on Windows 10 and I only really play Warframe so I plan on making it stay that way (I'm thinking about locking it totally down and not even browsing the web or move to a cloud service). I really don't like moving to Windows 11 especially with the features I don't want or need.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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My gaming laptop is something like 11 years old and still runs the games I'm interested in with really acceptable graphics.

I have installed Pop!OS on it and the combo Steam+Proton is great. I've kept my Windows 10 partition to run Skyrim with mods (last time I checked, it didn't run on Linux) and maybe the occasional Proton-incompatible game.

I tried once to upgrade the W10 partition to W11, and got an error saying that my CPU was not supported.

The day W10 reaches EOL is the day I finally delete that Windows partition. I could just keep it offline, but I don't really play Skyrim anymore (and worst case, I'll wait for Skyrim to run on Proton). As for the occasional game I can't run on Linux, I'll just pass my way. There's way too many games I still want to play, if editors filter themselves out from my reach, it's not my loss.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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It's the other way around: PC gamers have more computer knowledge than the average user and actually upgrade their hardware. Windows 11 has been out for 3.5 years now. Among all internet users, 60% are still on Windows 10. Both worldwide [1] and in NA [2]. And that figure includes all the corporate machines that get replaced on deprecation schedules. Among private computers the share of Windows 10 might be even highe…

I'm curious what Microsoft will do in 8 months when over half of PC users will be running a Windows version that doesn't get security patches. As a comparison to your 60% figure for Windows 10, Windows 7 had around 30% market share and Windows XP had around 25% market share 8 months before their respective EOL dates. The only options I can think of are loosening the Windows 11 system requirements (dropping the TPM re…

They could just disable Windows 10 through their updates or put it into some kind of read only mode. Basically a more extreme version of what they did with Windows 7 when it went EoL where they disabled wallpapers and showed a bunch of popups.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Windows 11 is a massive nothing-burger. The only annoyance is for those who are stuck on older hardware without TPM. As for everyone else, it's almost identical to 10 aside from one minor graphical change. Personally I don't get why so many are opposed to it.

I'm opposed to it because it has ads. Simple as. And before you object, yes I know you can remove that stuff. But I shouldn't have to.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Well 2 years ago when I built a new desktop i took great care to order hardware that works on windows 11. Then I read the stories saying 11 has even more telemetry that you can't disable, ads on the start menu, Edge that you can't get rid of... and when I got around to setting up Windows on it I ordered a Win 10 license. They're still available even now, I think. Win 10 does try to trick me into upgrading to 11 rando…

Was it possible to build a PC with new components that wouldn't be compatible with Windows 11? I mean I find it pretty hard to understand what are the actual requirements besides TPM 2.0 but all >= 8th gen Intel CPUs should support that?

Many custom build PCs had the fTPM disabled by default in the bios. It was buggy and caused performance issues on AMD systems at the time and since few people buying their own motherboards were using it, it was a pretty obvious fix for the motherboard makers.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

Sacrilegious. The best motivator for paying for Windows 11 is continuing to give money to a megalithic, parasitic corporation.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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I loved using windows for a long time. I could strip it down and it performed and stayed out of my way. It wasn't ever pretty, I didn't like a lot of it, but I could just get what I needed out of it. Then it started to change, UI / UX had about 20 different flavors. I couldn't find settings anymore. Updates would change settings / undo my explicit settings. Eventually it felt like I was using an ADWARE OS. I fled to…

Quote from the article: "Windows: 96.55% Mac: 1.40% Linux: 2.06%". End of quote.
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