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Post by harimau777 »

exe34 wrote: post #21
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any idea why this is such a big deal to Nazis? I know they go after other people too, but it's really eerie watching it replay scene by scene.

Gender non-conformance emphasizes the idea that individuals have the power to define their own identity and way of life. Even if authoritarians don't care about gender specifically, they still don't want people getting funny ideas about self determination.

Specifically fascist authoritarians are likely to be concerned about gender non-conformance because their mythologies often often emphasize a society that's organized around men who can go to war and women who support them as homemakers.

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Post by harimau777 »

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This is of course a deliberate move. By actively destroying ideas and work you don’t agree with, rather than archiving it, you make it harder for the other side to realize their vision. It’s a kind of scorched earth strategy.

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At least in recent history, there haven't been mass purges of information when a new administration came into power. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened in isolated cases, and that would of course be wrong, but nothing like what we are seeing now.

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Post by fzeroracer »

zmgsabst wrote: post #63
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I'm curious, what would you call banning transgender individuals from the military then?

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I think you're avoiding the point. These are individuals that have otherwise already passed military training and fitness tests to determine whether or not they are able to participate and function as soldiers. They are actively a part of our military and being thrown out.

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Post by n4r9 »

zmgsabst wrote: post #67
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I guess OP is referring to stuff like Trump's baseless claims that DEI was a factor in the recent plane crash. I hope we can agree that that's an absurd position regardless of our own perspective on DEI.

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A single person's allegation of being passed over is a long way from proving that DEI policies contributed to staffing shortages. Moreover the audio from the recordings shows that the helicopter was warned and advised to avoid the plane, suggesting that staff shortages were not a crucial factor.

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Post by bloomingkales »

computerthings wrote: post #68
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There's been a few posts on HN suggesting reading Timothy Snyder. When the Nazis began labeling "enemies", they kind of didn't know where to stop. So it was Jews, non whites, gays (today it would be all lgbtq), communists, the list was big. When they invaded Poland, they ran into combinations of things they hated, so now they were dealing with Jewish Communists (whereas in Germany they were just Jews, or in Russia, t…

It's inherent. https://archive.org/details/TheOriginsOfTotalitarianism/ > The struggle for total domination of the total population of the earth, the elimination of every competing nontotalitarian reality, is inherent in the totalitarian regimes themselves; if they do not pursue global rule as their ultimate goal, they are only too likely to lose whatever power they have already seized. Even a single individual can b…

Thank you for that. You quoted the author of the phrase “Banality of Evil”:

Arendt's book introduced the expression and concept of the banality of evil.[15] Her thesis is that Eichmann was actually not a fanatic or a sociopath, but instead an average and mundane person who relied on clichéd defenses rather than thinking for himself,[16] was motivated by professional promotion rather than ideology, and believed in success which he considered the chief standard of "good society".[17] Banality, in this sense, does not mean that Eichmann's actions were in any way ordinary, but that his actions were motivated by a sort of complacency which was wholly unexceptional.

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Post by lazide »

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I think we're about the learn how effective the internet really is at remembering. Here is Rubio talking about how great USAID is not that long ago... https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/05/politics/video/kfile-marc... Not he says it's a criminal organization they've been trying to get rid of over multiple administrations. Obviously they want to scrub all the past.

We’ve always been at war with East Asia.

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Post by mschuster91 »

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It is important to note that pre-WW1, Germany was considered to be one of the most sophisticated societies in the world. That's where everyone worth a shit with a mind wanted to be. It's quite curious how the best were corrupted.

That was due to the loss of the war and the followup economic devastation brought by the reparation payments that caused a lot of issues in the economy at large, followed by the 1918 flu pandemic that also caused serious issues (and with 25M dead, even more death than WW1 itself!).

One might be tempted to again draw parallels to today's situation in the US, with the US having lost the war in Afghanistan as well as everyone having suffered through years of Covid.

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Post by ocuild »

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> There’s lots of disqualifying psychiatric and personality conditions Looking at your link, I can see how the conditions specified there would make someone less effective as a soldier. I can't say the same for gender dysphoria.

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Post by 4ndrewl »

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It’s because you frankly have a pretty petty, small-sized idea about what the left’s goals were. To you, the goal is to fucking burn out everyone you disagree with, and to change the government to actively persecute those who aren’t in the in group. It’s super aggressive, and by your own admission, not really what the leftists were doing. The liberal ideas are pretty goddamn simple. There’s a place for everyone, as l…

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Post by somenameforme »

enaaem wrote: post #53

What do Trump supporters here think of this?

I don't think there as many "Trump supporters" as one might think. His plan to defacto take ownership of Gaza or to relocate Gazans is overwhelmingly negatively received. So that's pretty clear that people are forming views based on actions, rather than a cult of personality or party. And on that, I do support these actions - but in both directions oddly. From an earlier post in this thread somebody linked to some examples of what's being taken down. Here [1] is one of the CDC pages that's been removed.

It has the CDC doing everything from encouraging schools to push DEI hard, to getting kids to create student-run clubs based around their sexuality. I think that's quite inappropriate, but that's also one of the many reasons I think this needs to be preserved. We somehow went from good common sense ideas like equality of opportunity and allowing same sex couples the same rights under marriage, to gradually shifting into equality of outcome or, as per this page, having kids run clubs in school about sexuality, at the CDC's beckoning no less?

It's all just quite odd. I think people in the future won't believe this stuff was happening to this degree, and so I think it's extremely important to preserve it, and to try to learn from it all. At worst it can simply serve as a very important time capsule. It'd be nice if, at some point, societies could stop bouncing between extremes (or even worse - staying at one end or the other) and maintain a more stable center.

[1] - https://web.archive.org/web/20250122231813/https://www.cdc.g...

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