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Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

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What a silly point of view. Instead what should they do? Post comments like this on HN? They clearly enjoy watching and digesting information from YouTube- the biggest platform for this. But people need to make money from it hence the ailment these these plugins remedy

>Instead what should they do? Read a book, touch grass, etc. >They clearly enjoy watching and digesting information from YouTube- the biggest platform for this. I'd probably enjoy heroin but I still choose not do take it because I know it's not good for me. What's your point?

“Touch grass”

This turn of phrase says everything to be honest.

Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

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What if we summarize all the information in the world into a few hundred volumes of human knowledge, then summarize those into a 10,000 pages book, then that into a 10 long form essays, then those into a 100,000 chars blog post, then that into a pamphlet and finally we summarize one more time into a single tweet.

I know you’re making a joke, but more seriously I think most yt videos have atrocious signal/noise ratios so information compression is likely very useful. Less so for many academic papers (although they have some pretty awful filler sometimes).

Some people inflate their video durations intentionally, but I think the majority of people truly think they're using the time wisely. Have you ever tried making a quick travel vlog of a vacation and ended up with a 15 minute short film? That B-roll at the airport was definitely critical to include!

I think the reality is that there are a lot of amateur video creators. Elevating the few talented creators through social engagement metrics isn't perfect, but I think it works well enough. Or at least more so than what these anodyne summarizations would give us.

Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

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I use SponsorBlock (be sure to enable all categories of blocking such as filler content, not just sponsors), DeArrow (de-clickbaits thumbnails and titles) and a video speed changer extension to enable much of your stated functionality, though of course not all. I've saved likely years of watching due to this combination.

YouTube has a speed changer built in. I'm curious what your extension would add.

Not the op but the extension I'm using adds 3 very mportant features :

* default to my preferred speed (2×)

* keyboard shortcuts to change speed on the fly as needed

* arbitrary speeds up to 4×

Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

#74
I tried it to summarize some lecture videos. And the summary ranged from average to bad. Nothing I couldn't already get from the description. Even ChatGPT 4o spits out far better content.

So far my method has been to take the transcript and use an LLM with customized prompt for summary.

Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

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post #63

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YouTube has a speed changer built in. I'm curious what your extension would add.

Not the op but the extension I'm using adds 3 very mportant features : * default to my preferred speed (2×) * keyboard shortcuts to change speed on the fly as needed * arbitrary speeds up to 4×

> keyboard shortcuts to change speed on the fly as needed

Speed up: >

Slow down: <

Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

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What if we summarize all the information in the world into a few hundred volumes of human knowledge, then summarize those into a 10,000 pages book, then that into a 10 long form essays, then those into a 100,000 chars blog post, then that into a pamphlet and finally we summarize one more time into a single tweet.

> into a single tweet It would say something like, "This text attempts to summarize the entirety of human knowledge". Still, IMO summarizing videos is useful. Even if the summary is not accurate or a 1:1 representation of the content, you can mostly get the gist of what is being said without being baited into watching advertisements. Although, this site doesn't seem to do a great job at summaries. Kagi's universal su…

I think a lot of people are sort of missing the benefit of something like this.

How do you read a book effectively? You skim the table of contents. You skim the contents of each chapter and mark interesting paragraphs. Then you go through the book another 1-2 times, each time getting deeper into the text and cross-referencing information between different parts of the book.

What tools like this will do is allow us to apply this same workflow to videos, which can greatly enhance our understanding of videos we're interested in and help us contextualise it with the rest of our knowledge.

I've already been doing this and it's helped me expand my knowledge and understanding in ways that wouldn't have been possible without an unreasonable investment of time and effort.

Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

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I tried it on music videos, and with most of them I got the distinct impression it's drawing from the description or external info, maybe PR, because it was very generic, the funniest I saw being https://tldw.tube/?v=kxstMJY2Q28

I was about to give up because after all, this isn't for music videos, tried something it could not possibly do well with, and I'm impressed, against my will.

https://tldw.tube/?v=7X62OJG6Whg

This isn't just an acceptable summary, this is really good, considering how much could be missed (like it did with https://tldw.tube/?v=6k7kk1lUnis for example).

Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

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>Instead what should they do? Read a book, touch grass, etc. >They clearly enjoy watching and digesting information from YouTube- the biggest platform for this. I'd probably enjoy heroin but I still choose not do take it because I know it's not good for me. What's your point?

> Read a book I wanted to say something flippant, but dang with the halo on my shoulder urges me otherwise. so here goes: books can also full of filler crap and useless and outright wrong material. just because it's a different medium doesn't make it any better for wasting time. in fact, a bad book can waste weeks of your life whereas a bad video on YouTube could waste about 10 minutes. ultimately I approve of any to…

Books at least go through a minimal amount of vetting before they are published, and there are meaningful differences between forms of media. As McLuhan wrote: "The medium is the message".

Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

#79

I would like to see one of these that produces an outlined summary then has timestamps as citations for the outline's individual entries.

That would be brilliant. I notice that in math/programming videos it will often just say “using a mathematical trick/concept” or “using bit manipulation” when it could just include the actual formula/equation. It would be nice to be able to go to the relevant section in the video to find it.

Re: TL;DW: Too Long; Didn't Watch Distill YouTube Videos to the Relevant Information

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From some light testing, the results here are pretty lackluster. I've used videosummarizerai.com in the past via ChatGPT and the ability to specify the format of the information you're looking for is a huge plus.

Here's the summary of this video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1WkG8WuRcg (AoE2 video)] from tldw.tube:

> The video discusses the most powerful team combinations in the "10x Shared Civ Bonus" mod for Age of Empires II. It highlights how certain civilizations, when combined strategically, can create overpowering unit types and tactics. The focus is on four-player team compositions that leverage unique benefits: for instance, the combination of Franks or Incas for free castles, Japanese and Tatars for rapid trebuchet fire, and Celts for enhanced onagers. The video also explores various combinations for cavalry and infantry, including the Goths for swift unit production and a range of secondary civilizations to amplify strengths. Commenters contributed ideas for clever combos, emphasizing the limitless potential for exploiting the mod's mechanics to develop broken strategies that can quickly overwhelm opponents by accelerating unit production or enhancing existing attributes, thereby showcasing the humorous and chaotic nature of the mod's gameplay.

and here's the summary of the same video from videosummarizerai.com via ChatGPT with the prompt "Give a summary of all civ combos mentioned in order":

> Here’s a summary of the civilization combinations mentioned in the video in order:

    Castle Spam Team:
        Incas: Free castles and massive villager armor bonuses.
        Teutons: Adds +30 range to castles.
        Celts: Castles fire at four times the usual rate.
        Sicilians or Spanish: Increased castle build speed (castles built in 30 seconds).

    Ultimate Trebuchet Team:
        Japanese: Faster fire rate and instant packing/unpacking for trebuchets.
        Tatars: Adds +20 range to trebuchets.
        Britons: Adds splash damage and perfect accuracy with Warwolf.
        Saracens or Celts: Additional attack bonuses or faster firing trebuchets.

    Best Onager Combo:
        Celts: Increased fire rate and durability for onagers.
        Mongols: Super-speed movement for onagers.
        Koreans: Adds +10 range and removes minimum range.
        Slavs: Makes onagers free.

    Scorpion Team:
        Khmer: Adds range and additional projectiles.
        Romans: Reduces cost and increases attack rate.
        Ethiopians: Adds torsion engine tech for better area damage.
        Chinese: Adds huge damage to projectiles for almost quadrupled effectiveness.

    [goes on to list remaining 4 team combos]
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