Very cool
Perma.cc – Permanent Link Service
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#72Hi! Perma is made by the Harvard Library Innovation Lab, which I direct, and I wrote a bunch of the early code for it back in 2015 or so. For HN readers, I'd suggest checking out https://tools.perma.cc/ , where we post a bunch of the open source work that backs this. Due to the shift from warc to wacz, (a zipped-web-archive format developed by WebRecorder), it's now possible to pass around fully interactive high fide…
Is there any concept of signing data at time of archive, and verification at time of access, to prove it is not later tampered with, say by a bribed sysadmin? Similarly are there any general supply chain integrity measures in place, such as code review of dependencies, reproducible builds, or creating archives reproducibly in independently administrated enclaves? You note archives could be used for instances like Sup…
WACZ files created by WebRecorder software like archiveweb.page are signed (by you) and timestamped (by a third party using RFC 3161).
Re: Perma.cc – Permanent Link Service
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s run by the Harvard Law Library (i.e. backed by a multibillion-dollar university that is substantially older than the country it’s located in) and operated as a decentralized network across multiple public and private library systems. Like any service, it might shut down due to lack of interest, but I doubt Harvard Law is at risk of “going out of business”.
> I doubt Harvard Law is at risk of “going out of business”. Wait until they publicly criticise Musk.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
My first question was "If this is a free service, how do I know it will still be around in even a few years?". This was answered by your comment that it is (or at least appears to be?) funded by Harvard. In which case, why isn't this prominently displayed on the main page? Or why not use a Harvard library URL, which will significantly boost the trust level? Especially vs a CC TLD which are known to be problematic?
It is on core Harvard funds, and we also have paid accounts used by law firms and journalists. As an innovation lab we often minimize Harvard branding with project websites because it's more instructive to win or lose on our own merits than based on how people feel about Harvard, in either direction.
Yeah, but the the mare success of a service like perma.cc relies on trust. How does someone trust you that you will be here in 10, 20, etc years?
Harvard has been around for hundreds of years, Harvard has inbuilt trust, Harvard has funding. You should negotiate and arrange going behind its brand.
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#75So who maintains the database? Or is it hashed? Or what?
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
My first question was "If this is a free service, how do I know it will still be around in even a few years?". This was answered by your comment that it is (or at least appears to be?) funded by Harvard. In which case, why isn't this prominently displayed on the main page? Or why not use a Harvard library URL, which will significantly boost the trust level? Especially vs a CC TLD which are known to be problematic?
It is on core Harvard funds, and we also have paid accounts used by law firms and journalists. As an innovation lab we often minimize Harvard branding with project websites because it's more instructive to win or lose on our own merits than based on how people feel about Harvard, in either direction.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is on core Harvard funds, and we also have paid accounts used by law firms and journalists. As an innovation lab we often minimize Harvard branding with project websites because it's more instructive to win or lose on our own merits than based on how people feel about Harvard, in either direction.
Yeah, but the the mare success of a service like perma.cc relies on trust. How does someone trust you that you will be here in 10, 20, etc years? Harvard has been around for hundreds of years, Harvard has inbuilt trust, Harvard has funding. You should negotiate and arrange going behind its brand.
Things like https://perma.cc/sign-up/courts
It's in several US states' interest to make sure this service keeps existing.
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#78Does this solve any of the problems that other link shorteners have, like eventually breaking when the site goes bankrupt or getting blocked by sites like Reddit due to their ability to conceal spam?
No it doesn’t, it will also go down eventually, most likely due to irrelevance or whenever someone at Harvard grows tired of maintaining this pet project or there are problems with the .cc domain.
I would be surprised if this will survive past 2035.
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#79But even Google retired their link shortner service.
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#80Way too expensive. I will keep using archive.is and forget I ever saw this post.