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Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the economic hurt this causes to China is enough to drastically reduce the flow of fentanyl into the US What if the economic hurt this causes to China drastically increases the flow of fentanyl in the US?

Then block all trade outright with China if they show themselves willing to be so openly belligerent.

That seems unlikely

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

#72
This is going to utterly fuck so many R&D projects at my company. We actually do large-scale manufacturing of industrial valves in the USA. But a lot of our prototyping involves working with Chinese suppliers and getting small batches of samples / prototypes / revisions sent in packages on airplanes.

I literally do not know how the electrical and firmware engineers will do their jobs now if we cannot receive packages from China. It's going to halt all our R&D for at least 6 months while we onboard domestic contractor alternatives --- which will also just generally be shit. Not to mention the American contractors WONT BE ABLE TO SHIP IN THE FUCKING ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS FROM CHINA THEY NEED FOR THE PROTOTYPES.

Every single R&D department in the USA just got fuuuuuuuuucked by this.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We literally don't make much most of this stuff in the US Not said often enough is that we DONT WANT to make much of this stuff in the US. People seriously don’t get how remarkable it is that the U.S. is able to get other countries to send them actual usable stuff in return for pieces of paper that the U.S. prints. And how much richer this makes Americans. I don’t believe the U.S. should be fully free market. Clear…

The new problem is the factories making a lot of this stuff are heavily polluting, and we have little to no control over that because they are abroad. Part of a good climate strategy must involve regulating them somehow.

At least for China they have an environmental plan far and away better than the US’s “what do the rich want to do?”.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

#74
post #50

Oh, look! We've cut off shipments from China! Now you'll have to buy American. News flash: we can't afford to buy American. Why do you think we were shopping there. It's too late to fix it now - we no longer have the money or the ability to make the money to buy American and even if you gave more money to Americans, prices would just increase accordingly. Also, some of those products were paid for already. Someone ow…

> News flash: we can't afford to buy American. Oh come on now, how much more does an iPhone made in the US cost? Oh. Hmm.

Probably 3x - 10x cost If You have the infrastructure to manufacture it. And they years it take to build infrastructure in china its months, in us? Years. Just look into how long it takes to put a bus station or a factory

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

#75
post #40

So if you're worried about packages coming from AliExpress, you probably shouldn't be. The last several packages I ordered were shipped USPS with an origin of the US. Los Angeles was the origin of the last one I received with AliExpress Choice(tm). It may affect ebay purchases of electronic parts from Shenzhen though. Particulary if the vendors use the Chinese post office. I also ordered a Keychron keyboard last week…

I'm worried more about the prototypes my R&D department is designing in partnership with Chinese contractors and fabrication facilities. We manufacture the final products here in the USA, but a LOT of components we air-mail from China.

A huge percentage of the nation's R&D efforts (for DOMESTIC MANUFACTURING) is going to be completely and utterly fucked if they can't rush-deliver niche items from China. This is a disaster.

And it's not just R&D! If you have a big factory here in the USA but you need a rare part/tool/electrical component to fix the factory - often the OEM you buy it from will ship it from their China warehouse and it'll arrive in 1-4 days.

As a person who works in domestic manufacturing, this seems really, really bad for domestic manufacturing.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

#77
post #4

The linked page is about a different notice. The correct webpage (that the linked page has linked to) is https://about.usps.com/newsroom/service-alerts/international... By the way, can anybody explain what's the significance about this submission?

Watch things in the US grind to a halt when you can't maintain them with cheap parts from China.

Yep. We ship in little bits and bobs from China constantly to keep our enormous manufacturing center running here in the USA. This is going to be horrible for us.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

#78

Oh, look! We've cut off shipments from China! Now you'll have to buy American. News flash: we can't afford to buy American. Why do you think we were shopping there. It's too late to fix it now - we no longer have the money or the ability to make the money to buy American and even if you gave more money to Americans, prices would just increase accordingly. Also, some of those products were paid for already. Someone ow…

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The upper class vacuuming up all profit, greatly exacerbating inequality, is a far bigger deal than the inflationary impact of immigration. Your analysis is poor.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

#79
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the economic hurt this causes to China is enough to drastically reduce the flow of fentanyl into the US What if the economic hurt this causes to China drastically increases the flow of fentanyl in the US?

Then block all trade outright with China if they show themselves willing to be so openly belligerent.

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha. As someone who works in manufacturing in the USA - we can't keep our domestic factories running, or build new ones, without trade with China. We also can't keep our hospitals running, manufacture vehicles, or a million other things without Chinese components/tools/materials.

Re: Suspension of inbound parcels from China and Hong Kong

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The stated purpose of the tariffs is to stop the flow of fentanyl into the US (which kills over 70k Americans a year). If the economic hurt this causes to China is enough to drastically reduce the flow of fentanyl into the US then I suppose it will have accomplished its mission

Actually a White House spokesman said it has killed "tens of millions of Americans" [1]. They didn't say over what timeframe, but it has only been around 65 years so would have to have killed on average over 150k per year just to reach 10 million.

OD deaths have also been plummeting since mid 2023, after rising greatly during the last half of Trump's first term, and to a lesser extent during the first half of Biden's.

[1] https://www.npr.org/2025/02/02/nx-s1-5283957/fentanyl-trump-...

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